eska /gamefisher 9.9/15 running with new homemade cdi> impeller problem

[truckintyler]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Oa9CeL8NLQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbECL-cjPuY&feature=channel_video_title
running out on the lake, i put a new impeller which worked fine at idle but past 1/4 throttle the stream would break up and get hotter and a little steam i think. does this seem right for this engine... or do i have a problems somewhere?...

also the homemade cdi works awesome. it would rev right up, but i was worried it would overheat with the peehole water not a constant stream.
good thing i had the 4hp sears/mcculloch to pick up the slack.

 

[mrcrabs]

Re: eska /gamefisher 9.9/15 running with new homemade cdi> impeller problem

No its not peeing right tyler, check some other 9.9 youtubes out. You know I always preach about water pump driveshaft seals and slop in the water tube at the powerhead...water going every place but where it should and no pressure where you need it, but if you run in salt water consider that to, may be a blockage some place, I have pulled more bits of old impeller from these things than you would believe, they hide in the foot and the water tube and ...well just every place
and congats on the ignition, as mahtymaht says "man points"

 

[bjbmedic]

Re: eska /gamefisher 9.9/15 running with new homemade cdi> impeller problem

I was having a similar problem like that until I ran a piece of weed wacker cord up the tell tale and now I get good stream from mine so you might try that and see if it works
B

 

[MahtyMaht]

Re: eska /gamefisher 9.9/15 running with new homemade cdi> impeller problem

Go, Truckin' TyMan, GO!

 

[truckintyler]

Re: eska /gamefisher 9.9/15 running with new homemade cdi> impeller problem

So I dismantled most of this motor, the bottom o- ring for water tube which is in the pump housing was worn, also some previous owner put a copper line in as a new water tube which doesn't fit perfect but works. The top side was loose and maybe leaking.

Soo now I'm trying to makeshift a new top water tube nut since the old was rusted bad. It took a drill bit, hammer punch and heat to get it out.

 

[mrcrabs]

Re: eska /gamefisher 9.9/15 running with new homemade cdi> impeller problem

don't you just love it, I have seen new and used water tubes on ebay for the 9.9

 

[MahtyMaht]

Re: eska /gamefisher 9.9/15 running with new homemade cdi> impeller problem

A nut on the water tube top end? What's your model number again? I have a lathe, and I collect scrap aluminum, nylon, etc., at the dump, so I have some useful raw material - if you need something squirreley, maybe I can make it for ya. Are you you running in saltwater? I ask because copper is one of the most chemically active metals you're likely to run into, and having it in contact with aluminum simply shouts accelerated galvanic corrosion to me. I'll say this - if steam is comming out the pisser, Houston, we have a problem. Temps have to be over 212 for that, and that can only happen if the thang's running too hot. I'm glad you had a back up motor, and the wit to use it. Once again, T-Ty - 'Good man, damned good man'

 

[truckintyler]

Re: eska /gamefisher 9.9/15 running with new homemade cdi> impeller problem

well i was able to reuse the old nut. just used the hammer and punch to tighten it. and i remembered to put a new o-ring on.
mahtymaht you have a lathe? i am jealous.
as for salt-water none of that round Ontario we have fresh water and lots of Winter, so you can find an old outboard in pretty good shape which is a Bonus! cause i love old junk.

now could it have just been exhaust? i'm thinkin it was. i know it wasnt that hot.

here's a diagram of the way my water tube attaches to the plate under the engine.
MOdel # 217-58631-0
pretty crude. but better than the sears diagram.

 

[MahtyMaht]

Re: eska /gamefisher 9.9/15 running with new homemade cdi> impeller problem

It's just a chinese junker, 11' x26", but it sure has been a handy little sucker. Wish I had a Bridgeport.

 

[mrcrabs]

Re: eska /gamefisher 9.9/15 running with new homemade cdi> impeller problem

I have a friend just down the road with a bridgeport mill in his basement,,,madman engineering, I was going to have him cut a woodruff key in that points model AV817 but decided against it. he says they use lots of electricity

 

[MahtyMaht]

Re: eska /gamefisher 9.9/15 running with new homemade cdi> impeller problem

I have to admit that since I got the little Lincoln and the lathe, my household comptroller has asked me a couple of times, why I thought the juice bill was so high. Of course, I couldn't possibly........ I don't know an easy way to get the key way in exactly the right place. I might know a guy with an SSI crank, if you knew a guy with a dead SSI stator. I'm sure the potted modules for the twins and singles are the same, and I'd really like to play this CDI experiment the rest of the way out.

 

[mrcrabs]

Re: eska /gamefisher 9.9/15 running with new homemade cdi> impeller problem

I'm going to go points w/the short block when the Ted Williams chunks my rebuild..if ever, I got all the goodies for that.
The single modules trigger coil area is very sensitive and the whole module splits in half if not really carefull, I have already killed one, it just split as soon as i relieved the thin side....I guess the material is to thin between the componets near the trigger on the thick side of the module, but I'm still working on it when I can....I need a smal drill press and stator jig to do it right....if I get another I will let you have it...and I will sooner or later.

 

[truckintyler]

Re: eska /gamefisher 9.9/15 running with new homemade cdi> impeller problem

Water problem fixed!
Water tube was too loose. Got a nice stream today, can't wait to get it out again.

 

[mrcrabs]

Re: eska /gamefisher 9.9/15 running with new homemade cdi> impeller problem

my TW d, luxe 7.5 has the nut and washer at the top, runs so cool at idle that I can't feel any heat from the exhaust relief holes even blocking it with my fingers, They cool well when there put together tight

 

[MahtyMaht]

Re: eska /gamefisher 9.9/15 running with new homemade cdi> impeller problem

BANG!!!! Most cool ,T-Ty. Hey, MR C. - you are looking for a points crank? I got SSI and points cranks. My boy, who kicks legendary azz, got me a late model Johnson 6hp 4 stroke for $400 yesterday. Strapped that sucker on my hull, and rocketed on down the Cathance today. I may be out of the Eska business soon. I am, by God, going to make that 9.9 go, whatever else on this earth happens. It's not heavier than the Johnson 6, and even accounting for the hp being measured at the prop for the Johnson, and at the crank for the Eska, I think Mr. Eska will have a little more foojoo at the prop. Let me know which crank you're after, I'll hook ya up. You can send me a trigger thingamajuter when you get one.

 

[mrcrabs]

Re: eska /gamefisher 9.9/15 running with new homemade cdi> impeller problem

did you kill a trigger on one of your twin modules? how about using the trigger coils from a Johnson timer base?? if your in outboard country they should be a dime a dozen

I don't need any cranks, I have 2 female splined SSI motors and a 2 male shaft SSI motors and the new short block which is female and points, what I need is a new knee bone...got any of them? if you can be patient I will find you a ebay dead twin stator for cheap, I don't see how or why you would mount or set the air gap using a single's module unless you were able to depot and remove a trigger and mount it...and I doubt that can be done with out killing it. did you see that picture of the home made twin module in the groups files or pictures??

I out fished my little buddy yestreday but not by much, we caught our limits...nice lake catfish and crappie to die for....my fingers are sore from cleaning them last night...I need to pull it together and ggo back down to the creek today....I think I will go Tanaka 3 hp for main ships power today....trolling batterys are charging now

 

[MahtyMaht]

Re: eska /gamefisher 9.9/15 running with new homemade cdi> impeller problem

I suspect that I killed it cutting traces. I think it has a busted lead on the other side of the board. My assumption is that if I got the whole black potted module off a 7.5, I could bolt it onto the 9.9, and have a do-over. If I had a dead one from a twin, I'm sure I wouldn't sccrew the pooch again, now that I'm all experienced and stuff. I don't believe I have seen pictures of a home made twin module. I must admit to some confusion about the eska yahoo group - when I go there, it's just a dead static page - no active links, nothing to do. It knows me, and it thinks I'm logged in, but it doesn't seem to do anything. Better keep an eye on your man, there, I got a feelin' he's gonna be showin' ya how it's done new school, before too long.

 

[mrcrabs]

Re: eska /gamefisher 9.9/15 running with new homemade cdi> impeller problem

there are files and photos section to the left, I was suprised you didn't get into it and look at some of the wiring diagrams and such

 

[MahtyMaht]

Re: eska /gamefisher 9.9/15 running with new homemade cdi> impeller problem

I see all manner of interesting links, they've just never been active.

 

[truckintyler]

Re: eska /gamefisher 9.9/15 running with new homemade cdi> impeller problem

I suspect that I killed it cutting traces. I think it has a busted lead on the other side of the board. My assumption is that if I got the whole black potted module off a 7.5, I could bolt it onto the 9.9, and have a do-over. If I had a dead one from a twin, I'm sure I wouldn't sccrew the pooch again, now that I'm all experienced and stuff. I don't believe I have seen pictures of a home made twin module. I must admit to some confusion about the eska yahoo group - when I go there, it's just a dead static page - no active links, nothing to do. It knows me, and it thinks I'm logged in, but it doesn't seem to do anything. Better keep an eye on your man, there, I got a feelin' he's gonna be showin' ya how it's done new school, before too long.

i'm not 100% but the 7.5 and 9.9 modules are very different... ed stroller has a picture of a 7.5 tecumseh stator and its a bit different.