ETEC performance

[JC21]

Just bought a War Eagle 1648 and was set on an ETEC 40 tiller for it until a dealer told me im looking at 30 ish top end. Is anyone running a set up like this that I can get some performance numbers from. Top end prop size that kind of thing. I'm using the motor primarily duck hunting so my average load out will be 3 guys and gear. I'm not looking to be the fastest guy in the river just want to be able to run mid 30s. I've been told I should look into the tohatsu 40 tldi that I can get high 30s in that set up. Problem is Im 75 miles from a dealer vs 10 min from an etec dealer. Also heard the tohatsu is built with substandard alloys making it weaker where the etec seems to be built like a tank. Not something I need in flooded timber. Im hard on motors. I keep them properly maintained just not one to baby them at all. The tohatsu's also just look cheap to me. Any advice tips or suggestions are appreciated. Thanks

 

[kfa4303]

Re: ETEC performance

I would think that you could get into the low-mid 30's with the etec. Although, you may have to do some experimenting with different props and/or jackplates to find the sweet spot. If money wasn't an object I'd go with the etec over the tohatsu any day. They don't require a break in period or scheduled maintenance for 3 years, and they have crazy low end, 2-stroke torque which is will be handy in getting a fully laden boat up on plane quickly. I think they hold their value better too. I know that anytime a a decent used etec pops up on c-list down here in FL it's gone in a matter of days, if not hours. The tiller etecs also have a cool little idle adjust feature which is handy when trolling/low speed operation. All that being said I believe the <40 hp Tohatsu, Mercury and Nissan motors are all the same and are also generally well regarded.

 

[seahorse5]

Re: ETEC performance

Not familiar with your boat but its rare for a 40hp to get in the mid 30's with a load like you are talking about. There is no comparison between the Tohatsu and the E-TEC. The Evinrude is a much stronger and better built engine, especially if you are going to be in saltwater.

http://www.evinrude.com/Content/Pdf/neutral/performanceReports/PE289.pdf

 

[Sea Rider]

Re: ETEC performance

If you go for the Etec 40 tiller model, place an induction tach on tiller or engine front cowl. If it comes with standard prop factory delivered probably will be under powered with 3 guys and gear. Select a less prop pitch that gives near 6000 rpm at wot for boat/engine to perform as expected.

Happy Boating

 

[JoLin]

Re: ETEC performance

Just bought a War Eagle 1648 and was set on an ETEC 40 tiller for it until a dealer told me im looking at 30 ish top end.

I've been told I should look into the tohatsu 40 tldi that I can get high 30s in that set up. Problem is Im 75 miles from a dealer vs 10 min from an etec dealer.

Unless I'm missing something, 40 hp is 40 hp. If they're propped the same they're gonna 'go' the same, are they not? If the concern is not enough top speed, you address it with more horsepower, not by choosing one brand over the other.

My .02

 

[steelespike]

Re: ETEC performance

The displacement of the Tohatsu is 42.5,gear ratio is 1.85 not friendly to performance with added weight. the Evinrude is 52.7 cu. in. with a 2.67 gear ratio It should love pushing a load. I checked 3 tests A 16 ft polor craft 1704 lbs all up weight 17" ss prop 5500 @ 31.5.
18' Waco jon like 1362 lbs 17" ss 5425 32.5. Aluma craft 1650 jon like 1490 13" al 5700 26.2 mph.
Can't explain the less spectacular results of the Alumacraft but probably the fault of the boat.
Some jons have 5 or more keels I don't think they would be good for speed.
Don't forget that the Etec has 3 years or 300 hours with no maintenance required and no breakin period
It seems that this ability would lend itself to your ways of boating.

 

[pootnic]

Re: ETEC performance

I only know what I've read on other forums.
While I and alot of people like the etec,the 40hp is the same weight as their 60hp(almost the same engine)and heavier than alot of 4 strokes of the same hp.On small boats(jons)weight is a big deal and some people say there on the slow side because of it.Maybe it's a set up issue,I really don't know.
If you go on the etec site,they have a comparision spot.Only the Suzuki is around the same,the Merc/Honda around 40lbs less and the Yamaha 60lbs less.I know etec displacment is the biggest but does it make up for 60lbs on a smallish jon boat?
Maybe try some duck hunting forums,they might be able to help some more.
I have a 1652 jet tunnel,with a old 30hp 2 stroke...28mph.
While I don't baby motors either,I can't imagine running a new outboard through flooded timber.

 

[steelespike]

Re: ETEC performance

I believe the Tohatsu is 206 lbs The lightest Etec 40 is 232 the typical weight is 240. I think that is about a 34 lb difference.
Obviously need to be sure we are comparing motors with the same options.
The Tohatsu is the smallest displacement at 42 cu in. Merc and yamaha are 45 cubes and 216 lbs and 214 lbs respectively.
I don't think 34lbs means much when the displacement is 25% larger.I think hole shot and load ability is better with more cubes.

 

[82rude]

Re: ETEC performance

also look at the lower unit on the etec ,its much larger than the others.its the same basically that i had on my 90 hp evinrude.for total honesty i must say i have the 60 etec and as far as im concerned it rocks.its quiter than my friends 4 pokes (50 and 75 mercs, new),zero smoke ,lots of grunt and is the fastest starting motor ive ever seen or owned.it literally takes 3/4 of a turn of the flywheel to fire up .gas and oil useage is stellar.

 

[Bob_VT]

Re: ETEC performance

Sorry but I doubt you will get that speed with 3 guys and gear......... however the e-tec will get you there and more important..... back again.

You are being too optimistic on the speed

 

[82rude]

Re: ETEC performance

Sorry but I doubt you will get that speed with 3 guys and gear......... however the e-tec will get you there and more important..... back again.

You are being too optimistic on the speed

for sure bob.i only get about 40ish tops and my boat weights next to zip.

 

[Texasmark]

Re: ETEC performance

I think hole shot and load ability is better with more cubes.

Mercury proved that on their 150 V6 engines made primarily to power mid sized bass boats, notorious for bad hole shots, due to design. Initially it was at 2000cc and later they upped it to 2500 for the same 150 hp. SIZE MATTERS. I have a '97 sales brochure with the 150 at 1998cc and the 150 Magnum at 2507cc. The 94 catalogue I have does not offer the 150 Magnum. It says in part: "it's special power curve provides unequaled power at the low end to help get you out of the hole and up on plane faster".

So you don't have to take my word for it, here it "tis" from the horses mouth.

Mark