Evinrude 60 hp te60tlene running problems

tater140

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So I recently bought a used boat and have been working on the motor trying to get it to run right. I was told the boat sat for about a year prior to me buying it. I'm looking for some help pointing me in the right direction to check some basic things out here on my own before I haul it to a mechanic. The motor starts fine and will idle fine, revs up fine all while using the fast idle. Once I idle the motor down and try to put it in gear it immediately dies. No coughing, sputtering, or anything like that it just dies. I can go in the back with the cover off and manually idle the motor up while someone else at the console puts it in gear and it goes into gear just fine. So my first thought was that I just need to adjust the idle up. I can also put it into and out of gear no problem while on the hose in the driveway with no load on the prop. Now once in gear the motor idles around the lake fine with no noticeable problems, once I try to give it gas to get up and go it just bogs down and lugs around (it never really opens up). It probably doesn't go over 8-10 mph i'm guessing. It will however open up and rev high when in neutral. I let the motor idle for about a half hour last night while on the lake to see if it got any better.

In talking with a friend he thinks the carbs just need to be rebuilt. When I first opened up the motor cover after I bought this boat there was quite a bit of dust and sand inside of the motor cover. I could even see where it had been sucked in towards the air box by the carbs. I bought the rebuild kits for the carbs and we are planning on doing that this Saturday. I can also grab the prop with the motor off and can rotate the engine through a compression stroke. I don't know how hard that should be but it requires a little bit of effort but not overly hard. I thought I might also find someone with an engine compression gauge and see what that tells me. I put a can of seafoam in about 8 gallons of gas that is in the boat. I think about 3/4 of the tank of gas is new gas according to the guy I bought the boat from.

The spark plugs are ql77jc4 and I took them out and looked at them and they looked mostly black. All of the fuel lines, fuel bulb etc... look relatively new. The fuel bulb stays relatively tight when running and what i believe is the fuel pump on the motor has a small tag that says alcohol resistant. I'm guessing the entire fuel system has fairly recently been replaced.

Is there anything else that I can check relatively easily. I'm fairly handy when pointed in the right direction, i just don't always know where to start.
 

tater140

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Re: Evinrude 60 hp te60tlene running problems

How can I best check the power pack and or the spark before I worry about rebuilding the carbs?
 

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Re: Evinrude 60 hp te60tlene running problems

If you have a multimeter with a peak-voltage setting or a DVA adapter, CDI Electronics has a comprehensive troubleshooting guide for all ignition components.

Rgds
 

tater140

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Re: Evinrude 60 hp te60tlene running problems

I just have a basic voltmeter, not sure if it has a peak setting. I may have to look at it. Here is what else i've found out. i can start the motor (on the muffs) and let it idle. When I pull the top plug boot off it instantly dies. I start it back up again, with the top one back one. This time I pulled middle one off and nothing happens, motor is still idling. Put that one back on and then pull the bottom one off and the motor loses rpm and barely idles.
 

tater140

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Re: Evinrude 60 hp te60tlene running problems

So, today I took the coil out of the middle cylinder and switched it to the top cylinder. When I ran the same test as above I got the same results. I got a light from the neighbor to try and time it, and will be looking for a pressure gauge to see what the compression is on the cylinders, so i will let everyone know what those numbers are tomorrow when I get a chance. Right now i'm leaning towards a new power pack from all of the reading I have done on here. Keep in mind I am very new to outboards and more of a carpenter then a mechanic. I had hopes that I could fix this thing myself so I could learn a bit more about this engine so I can maintain it in the future. Any suggestions and or comments are appreciated... specifically in how I can tell if the power pack is bad.
 

tater140

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Re: Evinrude 60 hp te60tlene running problems

I compression tested the cylinders quickly this morning. I didn't let the engine warm up first for ten min's like they recommend due to the center cylinder not firing. I got these numbers from the top down #1 at 105 psi #2 at 105 psi #3 at 80 psi. I did notice that the center plug didn't have any gas at all on it when I removed it and it was a brand new plug that I put in yesterday. I only ran it for a minute or so a couple of times while I was doing the plug removal test. Right now i'm leaning towards the carbs being the problem. I will try to check the spark on that center one in a bit just to be sure. Any other thoughts or suggestions?
 

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Re: Evinrude 60 hp te60tlene running problems

I loosened the screw on the drain bowl of the carb for the middle cylinder and no gas came out. I then loosened the screw on the drain bowl on the top carb and gas came pouring out. Is the bowl the first place the gas goes when it enters the carbs? My question is the center carb even getting gas?
 

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Re: Evinrude 60 hp te60tlene running problems

The needle on the carb ended up being stuck. I ended up rebuilding all 3 carbs saturday night and took the boat out for a bit on Sunday. Motor seems to run good, I need to keep tuning on it a bit yet. It still smokes a lot, but I have a full can of sea foam in about 8 gallons of gas trying to clean it out. Now for my new question. If I gun the motor to get up and go from a standstill the prop will spin out. It usually took off for me if I slowly ran it up to speed. Also, at times when I was cornering at a slower speed and tried to give it more gas it would spin. I'm assuming that it is a spun prop hub, but not sure how to check it or how to fix it.
 

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Re: Evinrude 60 hp te60tlene running problems

You might want to take a closer look at the #3 cylinder. 80 PSI seems a bit low, all should be within 10% of one another.
 

tater140

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Re: Evinrude 60 hp te60tlene running problems

It's been in the back of my mind. I just got the boat and would really like to run it until this fall/winter and then dismantle the motor if necessary. If I try to extend it, would i was thinking I would take psi readings occasionally to see where I stood. Is there any downside to trying to extend that cylinder a little bit. I may be open to changing head gaskets as that looks fairly straight foward. Also a friend of mine was telling me it could be a stuck valve giving a lower psi reading, does that sound plausible?
 

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Re: Evinrude 60 hp te60tlene running problems

That's a 2 stroke motor, no valves except for the reeds. It may be stuck rings. You could pour some seafoam in that cylinder and let it sit overnight, then turn it over by hand, put the sparkplug back in and let it run for a while, then check compression again. If that plug isn't firing, it may be a bad coil. Switch coils with a different cylinder and see what you get.
 

tater140

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Re: Evinrude 60 hp te60tlene running problems

The weak cylinder is actually the bottom one. The middle cylinder is the one that wasn't firing. I now have the middle one firing fine after I rebuilt the carburators. I'm just wandering am I going to hurt anything by running the motor on a weak cylinder. I am open to cleaning, decarbing, changing head gasket, pouring sea foam in it if that is something that helps me get to the winter to where I can tear it completely apart if that is necessary. Just not sure what my next step should be.
 

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Re: Evinrude 60 hp te60tlene running problems

Next step- check compression again after the seafoam.
 
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