Evinrude BE4BRESR 4HP spark plug, year decode

[bobby_boat]

Hello!

I own an old Evinrude 4HP, Mod No. BE4BRESR Serial B 2458151

I tried really hard and was unable to properly decode the year. It seems like it is 1990 but BRP parts catalog lists completely different outboards under 1990->4HP Mine has a built-in fuel tank and all 1990s 4HP have external tanks. What am I doing wrong here? I called my local Evinrude dealer (Germany) but they are really not interested in helping with some older models.

Anyways: looking for a set of spark plugs. When I got it, it came with 2x CHAMPION RL82C. But I am not sure if these were the original ones or not.

Also I need info on the fuel mix and gearcase oil.

Thank you very much!
Bob

 

[racerone]

ES identifies it as a 1990 model.------Not 100% sure if international models / marketing was the same as here.

 

[bobby_boat]

ES identifies it as a 1990 model.------Not 100% sure if international models / marketing was the same as here.

yeah, the thing is: it is NOT 1990. Damn encrypted model numbers. How hard it is to print/engrave an actual year on a nameplate?

 

[bobby_boat]

Here it is. The nameplate and the outboard itself. None of the listed 1990s looks like that.

 

[racerone]

No need to use " bar room blabber " ( language ) in your posting.--------See if the parts from a 1987 model year are more like what was marketed as 1990 in Europe !!

 

[bobby_boat]

No need to use " bar room blabber " ( language ) in your posting.--------See if the parts from a 1987 model year are more like what was marketed as 1990 in Europe !!

As far as "bar room blabber language - I am sorry. I was not aware of it. I am not an English native speaker.

1987 looks more like it (even though the paint chart is wrong - all other parts look exactly the same). You might be right Evinrude did some time capsule marketing here in Europe.
Anyways, the part catalog lists Champion RL86C and Champion L86C for this model. Mine had a set of RL82C in it (no idea if they were ever replaced or original ones).

What should be a consensus here do you think?

 

[hardwater fisherman]

yeah, the thing is: it is NOT 1990. Damn encrypted model numbers. How hard it is to print/engrave an actual year on a nameplate?

If you look at the OMC recreational outboard 1980-1999 list ..You will see it listed as a 1990 model.

 

[racerone]

??----European marketing / models may well be different !!

 

[bobby_boat]

If you look at the OMC recreational outboard 1980-1999 list ..You will see it listed as a 1990 model.

I did. It is indeed listed as 1990 but it is clearly not. There must have been some marketing magic going on in the late 80s. Racerone was right - my outboard is 1987 (USA) which for some bizarre reason they decided to call 1990 here in Europe. I looked through most part diagrams and it all matches my outboard. I will be ordering pump kit for 1987 hoping it fits my "1990". I looked through 1982 to 1987 and it's pretty much all the same. The only question is the spark plug. If anyone could point me in the right direction I would really appreciate.

Oh, one more thing if I may ask:
Torque spec for the flywheel nut.

 

[hardwater fisherman]

Yes I know.. They have Canadian made motors on the list but no parts diagrams for them also.

 

[Vic.S]

I did. It is indeed listed as 1990 but it is clearly not. There must have been some marketing magic going on in the late 80s. Racerone was right - my outboard is 1987 (USA) which for some bizarre reason they decided to call 1990 here in Europe. I looked through most part diagrams and it all matches my outboard. I will be ordering pump kit for 1987 hoping it fits my "1990". I looked through 1982 to 1987 and it's pretty much all the same. The only question is the spark plug. If anyone could point me in the right direction I would really appreciate.

Oh, one more thing if I may ask:
Torque spec for the flywheel nut.

Its a Belgium made model for the European market ........ They are often different and are not listed on the American parts websites
If you order spares for it quote the full model number to be sure to get the right parts ... My dealer in the UK always asks for it even if I quote the parts numbers

AS far as plugs are concerned If it has CD ignition DO NOT use resistor plugs ... those with an R in the number
Use either the inductively suppressed plugs , those with a Q in the number, or un-suppressed plugs

For points ignition use either RL86C or L86C

For CD ignition use QL77JC4 or L77JC4

NGK plugs are more readily available in Europe. but avoid resistor plugs with an R in the number if you have CD ignition,. Use an un-suppressed plug or one with a Z in the number
BZ7HS-10 are equivalent to QL77JC4 and B7HS-10 are equivalent to L77JC4

There is no exact NGK equivalent to RL86C or L86C but BR7HS-10 or B7HS-10 will be satisfactory

The -10 at the end of NGK numbers indicates that it is supplied gapped at 1.0 mm
the correct gap for all is 0.7 to 0.8 mm (0.030")

I see no mention of RL82C ( or L82C) for any engine smaller than 9.9 They will probably be too cool

 

[bobby_boat]

Thank you very much for elaborating the spark plug issue so well. I went ahead and ordered a set of NGK BR6HS 3922. I have points ignition so they should be fine for testing purposes. In about 2 weeks I will be getting a set of genuine L86C so I will switch them eventually. Really appreciate your input Sir!

As far as Belgium made models for European market... I wonder why all the nuts, bolts and threads are imperial. They really should've gone metric.

Now I am having issues getting a right water pump kit as my parts dealer is unable to identify the model. I will end up pulling out the pump assembly and sending it to them to properly identify it. I am 90% positive the impellers are the same in all mid-80s models, but I'd rather be sure.

The last thing I need is the torque spec for the flywheel nut. From my painful experience with servicing a chainsaw I know it needs to be just right. I searched everywhere and was unable to find it.

EDIT:

fund the torque specs!

360-480 lb which translates to ~40-55 Nm if I am not mistaken.

 

[Vic.S]

If you are having difficulty getting the right parts try the UK dealer I use: Oakley Marine, aka Outboards direct They claim to be able to supply parts worldwide

http://www.outboards-direct.co.uk/home

My experience has been that if I fill in the email enquiry I'l get a call back from Chas. Oakley to confirm the details, and check on my model number.
Try to order everything you'll need, including gaskets, in one "hit" because they have to put together a certain size minimum order themselves.

( Flywheel nut 40 to 54 Nm )

The impeller is the same for '90 and '87 models ( including , to my surprise, "D" models)

You can check part numbers here on the "shop" tab or by going to the BRP parts website http://epc.brp.com/Index.aspx?lang=E&s1=7033c2ea-db4d-4a2f-9b8d-5b8d06d5e4df