exhaust gas path johnson prop 1999 2 stroke 50hp

gemini

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I am a bit puzzled about a circa 4mm wide radial gap around the back corner of the prop hub which seems an obvious path for a lot of the exhaust gas to bypass the normal through-hub route. I know that my outboard set-up is totally standard with the 12.25X15" OMC prop supplied new with the outboard (normal mid-range 3.5" gearcase type). I have also checked the thrust bearing and this is the correct OMC part.
Is there somebody out there with a similar age johnson 50 who can confirm what I am seeing. All other outboards that I have seen have a relatively small radial clearance (and hence very limited gas path) in this area with the stepped prop hub entering for a fair distance inside the gearcase housing. On my engine, the prop hub does enter the housing a little but is alongside a chamfered collar which is a mile away i.e. approx 4mm. Is the exhaust gas intended to partially vent across the prop blades on this particular outboard perhaps ? I have seen some references on the site to "prop porting" to allow some gas over the prop but these are relatively small holes, not this large radial gap?

This is a new project and I am basically not yet getting on the plane and this is just one factor that puzzles me.

By sports boat and ski boat standards the set-up has a very low power to weight ratio but there are a number of shetland 536 cabin boats like mine with 50hp on the water here in the UK successfully planing and reaching moderate speed on the plane which is all I aiming for, perhaps 22mph. So far I have yet to get above 11 knots on the GPS

With the the 15" pitch OMC prop speed gradually gets up to around 7 mph at 4100 rpm, then ramps up quickly to around 5000 (feels like slip/vent/cavitation) obviously not getting over the hump /tried a much larger pitch i.e. a standard 19" pitch OMC prop, only because it was available - did not expect much of a result which proved the case although the 4100rpm speed increase was not there. I am going to test the 15" pitch prop again this coming weekend (have marked it across hub) to see if there is hub slipping. Also I now have a new hustler 13" pitch prop to try if the 15" OMC one is slip free. I am not really concerned about top speed and fancy the 13" pitch might do the job for me as long as over-revving is not an issue (WOT=4500-5500) because I do like to carry a bit of load on the boat (three people and fuel etc could be as high as 2250lbs displacement).
I have other concerns as well regarding trimming, which I have tried in various positions including fully in.
Is the engine supposed to be vertical to the water surface when at rest and fully trimmed in ? (I would say mine is - the power trim fully in rests the leg on the limit pin which is positioned in hole closest to transom. I thought that when fully trimmed in the leg would "tuck under" the transom very slightly to help the take-off ?

Any ideas please. I will post again once I have done the trials above. Possibly I will end up trying smart tabs but I want to eliminate all other possibilities first.

Incidentally this my first post, it is interesting to see the different USA terms, for example the term " kicker " (just called an auxillary in UK ) is new to me. I am not sure but I think a hole shot is what I am looking for right now.

Regards Gemini
 

steelespike

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Re: exhaust gas path johnson prop 1999 2 stroke 50hp

We need a little more detail on your boat Dry weight ,length
if possible would be good.Your motor should be set up with the antivent plate(just above the prop)even with the bottom of the transom,isa starting point.
Normal trim would be with the prop shaft parallel with the bottom.(not even with the bottom) With power trim,trimmed in to start and final running trim
may be beyond parallel.You may have to raise the motor higher than even with the bottom for an ideal setup needs to be
setup just before venting becomes a problem and be sure it is pumping water.
I am thinking your prop is a problem too much gap.someone should be along with more prop info.
 
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