experts!: is this a typo?

jebeebe

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On the merc 60 hp (ob343140) there is two rubber seals at the top of the crankshaft. The bottom one goes on spline up and the top one goes on narrow part up (in the clymer book) , (narrow part down in all the merc blowups). I think merc is wrong. It stands to reason the narrow part would find it's way into the crankshaft better. Clymer shows a drawing of the shaft and the position of the two seals. I don't have a merc book so I don't know what they say. I'm not sure what they do (seals) other than keep water out of the spring loaded mechanism on the end of the shaft. can anyone check other manuals and give me an answer?.................Jerry
 

WillyBWright

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Re: experts!: is this a typo?

My parts diagram shows only one on top, facing down. There are two of the same seal on the bottom of the crankshaft, both face down.
 

emckelvy

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Re: experts!: is this a typo?

Jerry, from looking at the www.mercurypartsexpress.com diagram for your motor's serial #, here's what I see:

Pc. # 31, "O-Ring, Rubber (Drive Shaft); more commonly known as a "slinger ring" and would slide all the way down to the water pump. About all it does is keep debris (sand, silt) from falling into the top of the pump.

Pc. # 32, "Seat Assembly"; as I recall on the earlier Three's this was a plastic piece with splines in it that slides down over the crank splines until it bottoms at the lower end of the splines. Or maybe there's no splines in this piece, just a 'tang' or something similar that allows it to bottom out on the driveshaft splines. This gives the next piece (#33) something to ride against.

Pc. #33, (Seal, Splined); This should be a rubber piece going on the end of the driveshaft. It does not enter the crankshaft splines, but rather, as you're installing the lower unit, gets "squished" up against the end of the crankshaft to seal that area, keeping water off the spring-loaded pin (as you surmised), and also (more importantly), keeping water out of the splined area so that the driveshaft won't rust into the crank, or even worse, the crank splines rot away (unlike the driveshaft, the crankshaft is regular steel).

This is what I recall, keep in mind they may have changed the way the sealing items 'stack up', however the goal is to keep water out of the crank splines. So, you've got to have something pliable (like a rubber seal) pressing against the face of the crankshaft.

It was a lot simpler in the Olden Days when there was just an O-ring up there but Merc had a Better Idea with this type of seal I guess!

Prior to installation, be sure you spread some waterproof bearing grease (or Mercury spline grease) on the driveshaft splines (but don't load up the top of the shaft, just a thin coat on the pin).

Anyway, that's my take on things, HTH...........ed
 

jebeebe

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Re: experts!: is this a typo?

Jerry, from looking at the www.mercurypartsexpress.com diagram for your motor's serial #, here's what I see:

Pc. # 31, "O-Ring, Rubber (Drive Shaft); more commonly known as a "slinger ring" and would slide all the way down to the water pump. About all it does is keep debris (sand, silt) from falling into the top of the pump.

Pc. # 32, "Seat Assembly"; as I recall on the earlier Three's this was a plastic piece with splines in it that slides down over the crank splines until it bottoms at the lower end of the splines. Or maybe there's no splines in this piece, just a 'tang' or something similar that allows it to bottom out on the driveshaft splines. This gives the next piece (#33) something to ride against.

Pc. #33, (Seal, Splined); This should be a rubber piece going on the end of the driveshaft. It does not enter the crankshaft splines, but rather, as you're installing the lower unit, gets "squished" up against the end of the crankshaft to seal that area, keeping water off the spring-loaded pin (as you surmised), and also (more importantly), keeping water out of the splined area so that the driveshaft won't rust into the crank, or even worse, the crank splines rot away (unlike the driveshaft, the crankshaft is regular steel).

This is what I recall, keep in mind they may have changed the way the sealing items 'stack up', however the goal is to keep water out of the crank splines. So, you've got to have something pliable (like a rubber seal) pressing against the face of the crankshaft.

It was a lot simpler in the Olden Days when there was just an O-ring up there but Merc had a Better Idea with this type of seal I guess!

Prior to installation, be sure you spread some waterproof bearing grease (or Mercury spline grease) on the driveshaft splines (but don't load up the top of the shaft, just a thin coat on the pin).

Anyway, that's my take on things, HTH...........ed

Thanks for the reply...........I guess the #33 could be large portion up and seal the crank but why is it tapered on the other end?
 

emckelvy

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Re: experts!: is this a typo?

The taper might go to the bottom, to fit in a correspondingly-recessed part of the "Seat Assembly" (Pc. 32). This would keep the rubber seal firmly in place. Take a look at the seat assy, if you see a chamferred recess that's how it goes.

Otherwise just figure on what appears to be the best-fitting way. The goal here is to keep the rubber seal in place after it's "squished", while still providing a seal against the bottom face of the crankshaft.
 
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