Fuel Pump, Float, and a Question

BigAlinNS

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Hey Folks.

Took my 1986 Formula Mercruiser 350 Mag out of storage and tried to start it yesterday (yep late in the season). Carb was overflowing real bad and totally flooding intake manifold before an observer noticed all the gas.

Upon doing some reading here, of many excellant posts, I almost had myself convinced that a malfunctioning mech fuel pump could overpressurize fuel, made no sense to me, and sure I misunderstood - maybe people putting on fuel pumps with wrong size gasket... anyway I fell back on my old truck carburetor knowledge and went a different route. Once again did some reading here and sure enough a stuck float as I would suspect on a truck.

So all the above to maybe help the next guy and to lead up to a question:

Q. I've read that the extra line off the fuel pump (not on my old trucks) going to the carb is there to vent fuel, to anywhere but the bilge, in case the mechanical fuel pump vents, malfunctions, etc. Can somebody explain how a mech fuel pump failure can cause this to happen?

My experience with failing fuel pumps is on aircraft. When they fail they bypass due to a low pressure/flow - of course this implies other redundant pumps in the fuel sysytem.

Oh and before I forget. I see a few names over and over again helping people like me with questions... you know who you are... just want to thank you!!
 

Bondo

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Re: Fuel Pump, Float, and a Question

Hey Folks.

Took my 1986 Formula Mercruiser 350 Mag out of storage and tried to start it yesterday (yep late in the season). Carb was overflowing real bad and totally flooding intake manifold before an observer noticed all the gas.

Upon doing some reading here, of many excellant posts, I almost had myself convinced that a malfunctioning mech fuel pump could overpressurize fuel, made no sense to me, and sure I misunderstood - maybe people putting on fuel pumps with wrong size gasket... anyway I fell back on my old truck carburetor knowledge and went a different route. Once again did some reading here and sure enough a stuck float as I would suspect on a truck.

So all the above to maybe help the next guy and to lead up to a question:

Q. I've read that the extra line off the fuel pump (not on my old trucks) going to the carb is there to vent fuel, to anywhere but the bilge, in case the mechanical fuel pump vents, malfunctions, etc. Can somebody explain how a mech fuel pump failure can cause this to happen?

My experience with failing fuel pumps is on aircraft. When they fail they bypass due to a low pressure/flow - of course this implies other redundant pumps in the fuel sysytem.

Oh and before I forget. I see a few names over and over again helping people like me with questions... you know who you are... just want to thank you!!

Ayuh,.... In the case of a ruptured diaphram, fuel can/ will go, into the oil of the motor, 'n/ or out through the fuel pump housing Vent....
(all diaphram pumps need to be vented)
On a truck, 'n probably a plane, the vent drops the fuel harmlessly on the ground/ in the air....

The tell-tale line is vented to the throat of the carb, to tell ya the fuel pump failed....
Rather than into the bilge, as fuel vapors are heavier than air...
 

BigAlinNS

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Re: Fuel Pump, Float, and a Question

Hey Bond-o, thanks for the reply.

Somehow I forgot that a diaphram pump would need to be vented. So how does the fuel mix with the oil ie how can they mix at the vent? Also, do I correctly understand that its a good idea to periodically check the vent line to the carb? I noticed its clear tubing, easily accessible, and comes off easily.

Thanks.
 

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Re: Fuel Pump, Float, and a Question

Hey Bond-o, thanks for the reply.

Somehow I forgot that a diaphram pump would need to be vented. So how does the fuel mix with the oil ie how can they mix at the vent? Also, do I correctly understand that its a good idea to periodically check the vent line to the carb? I noticed its clear tubing, easily accessible, and comes off easily.

Thanks.

Ayuh,.... On either side of the diaphragms is either atmosphere, or the oil base cavity,....

It can leak, either, or both ways....

The line is clearish, so's you can see fuel in it...

If there's fuel in it, there's a Problem....
 
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