GPS--older unit not working

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DJ

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I just dug out my ancient Garman GPS 38 unit from a drawer in my gun safe. I forgot I had it. I believe this unit is at least eight years old.<br /><br />Anyway, either with fresh batteries or with the 12V adapter, I cannot get it to acquire any satellites no matter how long I let it try. I've exhausted all the recommendations in the owners manual.<br /><br /><br />Do these older units still work? Or, is there something wrong with the unit itself?
 

JB

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Re: GPS--older unit not working

Ahoy, DJ.<br /><br />My first GPS was a Garmin 38. Though I was amazed at what it could do for under $100, it wasn't the greatest at finding satellites (8 channel receiver). Unless I was outdoors on a relatively clear day it could take 10-15 minutes to decide where I was.<br /><br />The guy I gave it to when I upgraded to a 12 channel chartplotter (Garmin GPS12MAP) still uses it but sometimes it wont find enough satellites to give a good "fix".<br /><br />Sounds like yours is dead. Too bad, they were among the "Model T"s of consumer units. :(
 

Trent

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Re: GPS--older unit not working

Most units let you plug lat/lon into them so they can find themselves quicker. Dont know your unit personally but see if it will let you do it?
 

Paul Moir

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Re: GPS--older unit not working

Just a cut and paste from the Garmin FAQ. Mabey something here might help:<br />
<br />-What are the undocumented modes for the GPS 45/40/38/90/89?<br /><br />Globe spin rate and direction:<br /> Go to the map display. Then press the OFF button for 1-2 seconds. The <br /> globe will still be on the screen and you can change the speed with the <br /> up/down buttons and the direction of rotation with the right/left buttons.<br /> Press any other button to return to normal mode.<br /><br />Test screen:<br /> Hold down ENTER while pressing on the POWER button.<br /> Invokes button test screen and displays labeled:<br /><br /> SNR Signal to Noise Ratio?<br /> DRIFT of FREQ below<br /> FREQ apparently this is a 16 MHz internal clock<br /> TEMP degrees Celsius <br /> BATTERY voltage in hundredths of Volts<br /> EXTERNAL external power connector voltage in hundredths of Volts<br /> TIME Universal Coordinated Time without local offset<br /><br /> Press LEFT or RIGHT arrows to adjust contrast.<br /> Press ENTER 2 times to get an all black screen, press ENTER again for cool <br /> exploding rectangles on the display. Press ENTER again to exit this mode.<br /> Hold down OFF button to exit test screen.<br /> Also turns beep on if you had it off!<br /><br />Full reset and memory clear:<br /> Hold down MARK while pressing on the POWER button (CLEARS MEMORY!!!).<br /> DO NOT TRY THIS UNLESS YOU ARE WILLING TO LOSE ALL SAVED INFO!!!!!!!!!! <br /> Waypoints, Track, Routes and more will all be gone. I would not do this <br /> unless my GPS unit was having serious problems (and then only as a last <br /> resort attempt to fix it before sending it in for repair)! It returns<br /> all settings to initial factory defaults.<br /><br />Diagnostics mode:<br /> To get into this mode, quickly after turning on the power (while the globe <br /> is still spinning), press all 4 arrows one at a time (in any order).<br /><br /> 2 or 3 digit numbers are added to many screens. Reportedly they are the <br /> process stack depth. |<br /><br /> The signal strength bars are initially hollow. They become solid apparently<br /> when some specific data has been downloaded from the satellite.<br /><br /> The number in the bottom right of the satellite screen (usually something<br /> like 1.3 or 4.2), looks like an indication of the geometric degradation of<br /> [precision] (GDOP). It varies with the number and location of satellites <br /> being received, being lowest when a group of satellites scattered widely over<br /> the sky are present, and highest for a cluster of satellites, or when the<br /> received satellites are all in a straight line. It also seems to vary in<br /> step with the "accuracy" number normally displayed in the top right.<br /> Contributed by proach@cais2.cais.com (Peter Roach) <br /> <br /> The internal temperature in degrees Fahrenheit is added to the position <br /> screen to the right of the time. <br /><br /> A "DIAG" option is added at the bottom of the menu screen. The following<br /> is displayed on the DIAG screen: <br /><br /> Battery voltage in hundredths of volts.<br /> Elapsed time (can be zeroed by pressing ENTER).<br /> Screen can be paused by pressing MARK.<br /> Looks like there is a lot of internal software debugging info.<br />
Rest of Garmin 45/40/38 FAQ
 
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DJ

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Re: GPS--older unit not working

Thanks gents.<br /><br />I think I'll just play around with this thing to see ifI can get a bit more life out of her.<br /><br />Good thing I do not have to depend on it.
 
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