Hard Shifting on 4.3L Mercruiser Gen+ Alpha

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Capn G

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Long story but may be useful for background. I have a 2003 Stingray 190LX that had a Mercruiser 4.3L V6. ICM died on my last year after lightening hit the boat, fried some electronics. I tried to have the ignition switched over to an HEI distributor but never could get it to run right.

This spring, I purchased the right ICM module for the boat and got rid of the HEI setup. After putting the boat back in the water, ran the SAME WAY as it did with the HEI installed. I traced and diagnosed problems left and right. While tracing problems, I noticed some "chocolate milk" spitting out of the tubes coming from the valve covers. Thought it was a blown head gasket, but after breaking down the engine, it was a cracked block.

So............ bought a brand new longblock crate motor 4.3L, moved my accessories and waterpump over to the new engine, all other items, and STILL, ran like a dog. Decided to take ICM and other "computer" controlled stuff out of the loop. Installed the HEI distributor back in the engine, picked up 12v wire for power and she runs like a scalded dog.... Had to rebuild the carb first, had old gas and was needing rebuilt anyway.

Took the boat to the lake last Friday, ran it for 4+ hours without a single engine problem. Everything ran perfect, no misses, fired right up, etc.,.,....

The only problem left is the shifter. From what I can tell by reading, there's a shift cutout switch that momentarily kills the engine to make it going into Fwd/Rev easier. It's NOT connected as both connectors to the ICM are unplugged now. Prior to changing out the engines, there wasn't a shift problem, so I'm at the point of "guessing" this is the problem. I did check the cables for wear, none that I can see or anything that's obvious.

I see the two wires coming from the shift cutout switch, but don't know if it's a 12V switch. My thought is the put the power to the HEI distributor through the switch. Is that the right thing to do?
 

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Re: Hard Shifting on 4.3L Mercruiser Gen+ Alpha

Does your hei use a sep coil or one contained in the dist cap?
Check the switch with a meter to see if it opens when you push the arm or closes
If it closes, find the tach feed on the hei and hook it to there and ground or hook it to the neg side of the coil and ground
 

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Re: Hard Shifting on 4.3L Mercruiser Gen+ Alpha

My coil is in the cap of the HEI. I haven't hooked up the tack to the HEI yet, so if I follow you, one wire from the shift cutoff switch to the tack and the other to ground?
 

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Re: Hard Shifting on 4.3L Mercruiser Gen+ Alpha

Thx man, I appreciate the help. Any market on this forum for use Mercruiser parts? I have a brand new ICM and distributor that I'm not using any longer :)
 

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Re: Hard Shifting on 4.3L Mercruiser Gen+ Alpha

there's a shift cutout switch that momentarily kills the engine to make it going into Fwd/Rev easier.

Ayuh,... Actually,... That switch is only supposed to work when shifting OUT of gear....
It has Nothing to do with shifting Into gear...
 

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Re: Hard Shifting on 4.3L Mercruiser Gen+ Alpha

Sorry, I'm a novice. So, tell me what it's supposed to do? that would be useful.
 

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Re: Hard Shifting on 4.3L Mercruiser Gen+ Alpha

I checked the switch this afternoon, moving the shifter fwd or rev does NOT activate the switch. I moved the "arm" manually up and down and the switch works, so I'm now thinking an adjustment problem on the cables.
 

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Re: Hard Shifting on 4.3L Mercruiser Gen+ Alpha

On land the switch wont operate because there is no load on the prop.
switch only works in the water.
 

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Re: Hard Shifting on 4.3L Mercruiser Gen+ Alpha

Ok, makes sense. I'll hook up the wires like you recommended and lake-test it tomorrow. Thx again for all your help today, you saved at least an inch of my butt from scratching it :)
 

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Re: Hard Shifting on 4.3L Mercruiser Gen+ Alpha

Check out this posting as it is dealing with adjustment of the lower shift cable as well. Shifting out of gear should be effortless and smooth the shift interrupter should make the engine stumble I see about a split second 200 RPM drop so the the dogs release from the gears.
http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=328474
 

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Re: Hard Shifting on 4.3L Mercruiser Gen+ Alpha

thx, will check it out now. The shifter is hard to get to move either way from a neutral position, but it wasn't a problem before i changed the engine. I may have done something to interfer with the lower cable... hmm
 

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Update: I took the lower cable loose from the assembly and it moves freely by hand, so no binding it appears. I adjusted per the diagram in the other thread above, but didn't turn the barrel even 1/2 turn. When I put it all together again, magically it shifts fine now. I don't know what I did, I don't even care, it WORKS!!!! :) Thx for all the great help!!!
 

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Re: Hard Shifting on 4.3L Mercruiser Gen+ Alpha

Glad to help I know the feeling of "it WORKS!" It is nice having a boat shifting out of gear like it should smooth.
 

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Re: Hard Shifting on 4.3L Mercruiser Gen+ Alpha

I think it's still a little "snug" but that might be good. I was on the lake last week yanking it in and out of gear at the docks....... not good. Hopefully this will be all better now.
 

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Re: Hard Shifting on 4.3L Mercruiser Gen+ Alpha

Update: Boat working great....... engine is running perfectly and shift problem is cured. Got the wires to the shift cutout switch hooked up to the tach and ground and it drops about 200 rpm shifting. I think in the off season I'll disconnect the cables and lubricate them. They aren't sticking, just feel a little snug.

Ok, now for the next question about the prop. The prop on the boat isn't in "great" shape, so thinking of getting a new alum. prop. The one on there now is:

48-832834A45 -- 23" 3-blade alum. prop.

I had assumed that I would go back with that prop til the guy at the boat shop started asking questions about pulling skiers, floats, etc.,.... something about dropping down to a 21" etc.,,.,.,

BUT......................

Biggest thing he said that bothered me is that my engine should be taching around 45-4800 RPMs at WOT. It's about 35-3800 RPM on tach at WOT. The engine sounds fine, doesn't sound like it's wound up to end and the speed is around 35 knots according to my GPS and close to that on the speedo....

I'm wondering if I'm getting low RPMs due to damaged prop, or perhaps wrong prop, or HEI distributor not telling the guage the truth. So, since the combinations are almost infinite, instead of guessing, I'll see what the experts have to say :)

19' Stingray, 4.3L truck engine replacing the mercruiser, HEI distributor, computer hanging lonely on the exhaust riser with NO wires attached and boat running great. I will very seldom be pulling skier or tubes, just mostly running around the lake. I'd rather find a prop to be more economical on the fuel burn than top-end performance.

Thx for your advice/input/help.

Capn G
 
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