help wiring new trolling motor

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hello
i have bought a boat and am going to add a trolling motor
now i will need two 12v batteries at 100ah each in Parallel
now the question is can i charge them in a series
i want to charge each battery at 20amps each
so how would i wire this up
i want to use the the trolling motor and charge it at the same time ( using a generator )
thanks for the help
 
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gm280

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hunteronwheels, can you explain why you need two batteries connected in a parallel setup? Usually folks use two batteries in a series configuration for a 24 volt trolling motor. And then you want to charge them in series? :noidea: Sound odd to me. I would suggest buying a very good battery if your trolling motor is 12 volts and forget the second one strapped in a parallel configuration. Then a norm charger setup will work without any issues as well... IDK!
 

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Hunter -- you are providing conflicting information. You need to clarify if you have a 12 volt motor or a 24 volt motor. If you really have a 12 volt motor, then two batteries in parallel is a logical configuration (positive to positive and negative to negative) as explained in the referenced video. However, for charging, you do not charge them in series, you leave them in parallel and simply connect your 12 volt generator output, or the output of a conventional 12 volt battery charger to the positive and negative post of either battery. Keep in mind that it will take twice as long to charge both batteries as it would to charge just one.


If your motor is actually a 24 volt unit you definitely need the batteries connected in series, not parallel. Batteries in series double the voltage but current stays the same. Configuration a jumper connects the POS of one battery to the NEG of the other. The remaining positive and negative terminals provide 24 volts and ground for the motor. In this case you need a dual output charger with one output going to each battery. Some older chargers did not have isolated grounds and those cannot be used in this application.
 
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my motor is a twelve volt
i want to use two batteries parallel this i know i can do
now the reason i want to to charge in a series is
i can then charge each battery with 20 amps each at the same time off of a portable inverter generator
giving me 40 amp charge for the two
now that matches the 40 amp pull of the motor
so my question is
can i wire it up so the motor uses the batteries in parallel while charging them in a series or would they have to be charged in parallel as well
i would be using a 2 bank charger
 

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my motor is a twelve volt
i want to use two batteries parallel this i know i can do
now the reason i want to to charge in a series is
i can then charge each battery with 20 amps each at the same time off of a portable inverter generator
giving me 40 amp charge for the two
now that matches the 40 amp pull of the motor
so my question is
can i wire it up so the motor uses the batteries in parallel while charging them in a series or would they have to be charged in parallel as well
i would be using a 2 bank charger

I don't know why you want two 12 volt potteries in parallel, but the only way you can charge them individually is to disconnect the parallel wires before charging and then use a separate charger on each one. Maybe a battery disconnect switch will allow you to set it up that way. But it still sounds odd to me...
 

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Batteries in parallel do not have to be charged individually. To a charger they look like one big 12 volt battery. Good heavens, over the road trucks have six or more batteries in parallel and they charge just fine.
 
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Batteries in parallel do not have to be charged individually. To a charger they look like one big 12 volt battery. Good heavens, over the road trucks have six or more batteries in parallel and they charge just fine.



yes i understand that
the reason for two batteries is i have them already
and i have the charger already
the charger is a two bank smart charger at 20 amps per side
so i WANT to charge them individually to get the charge at 40 amps

but by the sounds of it i cant do it
 

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You can separate the two batteries, and then parallel the two charger outputs and connect them to one battery and charge at 40 amps. But why???? You then must repeat the process for the other battery so total charge time is still double. There is no advantage in doing that. Read on!~

You do NOT charge them in series. Forget series because you have a 12 volt system. The batteries are in parallel, so connect the two sets of outputs from the charger in parallel and then to either of the two batteries. You will have 40 amps into the two battery bank even though the outputs are connected to only one to the batteries. An alternate method is to again parallel the two sets of outputs and connect the positive pair to the POS terminal of one battery and the NEG pair to the NEG terminal of the other battery. Understand that two supposedly identical batteries are not really identical in capacity. Close when they are new but not perfectly identical. As soon as you parallel them, those two batteries will begin to equalize. During the discharge process (running the trolling motor) one battery may lose capacity at a greater rate than the other. During the charging process the opposite happens, The most deeply discharged battery will likely charge at a greater rate than the other until they equalize at which point once again, the charger is looking at one giant battery rather than two smaller separate batteries.

If you thought you could separate the two batteries and use one set of outputs on each battery, or actually configure them in series and charge at 24 volts, that is possible but it is of no value. You have a maximum output of 20 amps per output. So here are the possibilities:
1) Batteries left in parallel: Both charger outputs paralleled provides 40 amps into the bank.
2) Batteries separated: One charger output goes to each battery providing 20 amps to each battery.
3) Series connect the batteries in a 24 volt configuration. Again, one pair of outputs to each battery provides 20 amps to each battery.
4) Series connect the batteries in a 24 volt configuration: Connect the two sets of charger outputs in series and then connect output 1 POS to 24 volts POS. Connect 24 volts NEG to the NEG 24 terminal.

Configurations 2, 3, and 4 are no advantage to you and add a great deal of complexity to the wiring. There is no free lunch with this stuff. You have 40 amps max that must service 2 batteries. Why complicate the setup and introduce all sorts of points of failure only to accomplish the same thing as #1. Use configuration #1 and go fishing. Did you also know that the safe charge "rate" for most batteries is 20% of its capacity. Therefore a 100A battery should not be charged at more than a 20A rate.
 
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