Help with sluggish Mercury

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Bogging Down Help

I need help! This thing is causing me to age a lot more quickly. I have a 2005 Mercury 115 4cyl 2 stroke. When you push the throttle it bogs down for a good 40+ seconds before it slowly gets up on plain and eventually gaining speed and RPMs. It does not seem to get over about 4000 rpms even at full throttle. Compression is 120 on all 4 cylinders and spark is good. I have a lot of money wrapped up in diagnostics at this point. Has anyone run into this issue? Thanks in advance
 
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I have a 2005 Mercury 115 2 stroke oil injected. When throttling up it takes a good 50-60+ seconds to get on plane and even longer to gain any speed. Compression is good and spark is good. Any idea of why this anchor is so sluggish?
 

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More info required !----What boat ?----What propeller pitch is on it ?-------Did it run properly last week ?-----Did it sit for 10 years ?-----New boat to you ?
 
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The boat is new to me bought from a used dealer last fall. It’s on a Sea Fox 195 BayFisher. The motor was a seems to be a little more sluggish that before. It ran pretty good in the fall. I used it periodically through the winter months but we had a lot of rain and the Bay fishing was not good until recently. I’m not sure if the pitch but it has a stainless prop.
I was reading through a lot of the forums and noticed the control cable linkage was a common problem. My motor at WOT is only about 4000 rpm. I have jumps at lower rpms where it seems it’s trying to open up. That is one thing I remember from last fall it would creep for a short time and then it would all of a sudden jump up and go. Hope that helps with more info.
 

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Start checking if the contro box opens fully all carbs when at max hammer down, if so, being a 15 year oldie prop ? check if already spun or on its way to become fully so ? How loaded, number of passengers were there when making the last run ?

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Just me on the last trip. I’ll check the carbs tomorrow along with a couple of other recommendations and will report back what I find. Thanks for the help!
 

racerone

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I believe that motor idles on the top 2 cylinders.---At around 1800 RPM the bottom 2 carburetors kick in.---Do you have a water separating filter on your boat.
 
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That’s what I’ve heard. Seems like it’s struggling to get the bottom 2 cylinders kicked in. I do have a fuel/water separator.
 

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Sync and link has to be correct for these motors to function correctly!!! Accelerator pump cam clearance, injectors to 3 & 4 has to be clean..
As soon as the virus crap passes and Alabama/Florida reopen I hope will be at the Four Seasons for a week or so!!
 
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GA_Boater

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Thanks, AD. Moved. Glad it wasn't in the cartoon section. :smile:

You have a lot of money wrapped up in diagnostics isn't telling us what's been done to this point. What have you done so far so we don't tell you to do it again?
 
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Texasmark

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Your engine is a 2+2 as is my 2002 yearmodel of the same engine just purchased last summer. You run on 2 cylinders at low RPMs and once your engine gets up enough RPMs, there is enough fuel being fed to the other two cylinders for them to participate in your propulsion....book says that's somewhere around 1800 RPM. Your problem as was mine on my shake-down cruise of my new used boat, is that you have too much prop pitch for the available HP.

So, looking at available vs HP posted on the engine Nacille, the question is what happened to it? I assume that at one time things were working for you and this is a recent event.....so we will leave the prop pitch alone. If not, come back with that information.

After lots of work trying this and that, having had no idea as to what the PO had done or not done for/to the engine, I came up with the following efforts and have a great running boat:

1. I found that the lower 2 plugs liked to foul and with half the HP, you cannot make the hole shot. With new plugs I could make the shot but couldn't achieve top speed/RPMs, or anywhere near it until the plugs self healed and fully came online due to combustion temperatures burning off the contamination.

First time out, with minimum idling to get from the launching ramp out past the No Wake marker, I could punch it (fast transition of the throttle to ¾ or higher) and with the expected delay for the lower 2 to catch and come online, I had a clean hole shot and could run on up to the 5250 RPM rev limiter allowable max rpm....with trimming out appropriately as the boat picked up speed.

In retrospect, I found that the engine had a rough idle (about 700 RPM, in gear boat moving) if level or powerhead tilted back....allowing unburned fuel to pool at the top of the cylinders where the spark plugs are located. However, an easy solution to that was to tilt the engine slightly such that the power head was slightly tilted up in the rear and the idle was smooth as silk.

On subsequent outings, having applied the above tilting, where half the operating time was at trolling speeds, the bottom two plugs would foul out somewhat and when I would firewall the throttle, working the trim and coming up to speed, you could feel the engine intermittently gain RPMs as it was cleaning up the plugs, finally hitting the rev limiter RPM.

After some work I decided that I could minimize the fouling by changing the spark plug type and heat range. Since I don't run for long periods at WOT, I don't need to worry about the OEM recommended plug temperature rating being exceeded to the point where pre-ignition or melting of the electrodes would occur...if in fact that would happen.

I dropped down 2 heat range numbers (8 to 6 but on NGK plugs, lower numbers are increased heat range, unlike some other mfgrs. which are hotter with higher numbers) and went with an Iridium plug; Iridium for 2 reasons: Having a fine point, all the charge is confined to a small tip area making for the hottest/largest volume of energy dissipated in one spot, not diluted by a large contact area.

Second, with the Iridium, looking at the insulator of a conventional plug vs Iridium (identical construction otherwise) there was more insulator material between the tip electrode and the shell of the plug making for a longer path for the charge to bleed off for plugs that were loading up with unburned fuel-carbon, thus decreasing spark energy leakage.

The plugs I chose were as follows: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Set-of-Fou...e=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649

The plug is exactly the same in all respects (including manufacturer and are genuine, not counterfit per NGK "how to tell the difference guidelines") except for heat range and tip type. I am having excellent results.

2. Other things I did/do, and in retrospect, probably not necessarily a necessity, were/are:
A. Use Pennzoil Premium Plus, semi-synthetic TC-W3 oil....almost no smoking, Walmart.
B. Not knowing the engine's history, installed repair kits on the accelerator pump (squirts a slug of fuel into 3 and 4 when it's time to bring them online), fuel pump, primer bulb-fuel line, new main fuel filter (which upon tearing apart had a goodly amount of accumulated crud---blockage), new small 3-4 cylinder fuel filter (clean internally).

3. What I didn't do was to remove and mess with the carburetors as nothing indicated that they needed my attention, nor link and sync nor anything else. But had what I did not worked, that would have been the next place I was headed.

You may or may not get lift from this "dissertation" of sorts. Depends on your engine and it's history. Good luck.
 
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Thanks for your help. I’m currently looking for a Mercury tech or shop that has the capabilities to test everything. Hopefully, FL/AL will start easing restrictions. Most public launches are open and we are able to get on the water in both states. They are watching for groups though. Hopefully all this will end soon so life can get back to normal.
 

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Merged both threads because I get confused easily and I'm not alone.
 
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