how does over temp switch work?

fordsohc46

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i have an 87 85hp force engine. i just got it and hooked it up to earmuffs. it starts and runs fine and water is spiting out top rear two holes along with exhaust smoke and coming out trim tab along with exhaust and smoke. i think this means the water pump is working. i have always had johnson/evinrudes and you could ground the wire going to the temp switch and the horn/buzzer would sound. i tried to ground this wire to see if the overtemp alarm was working and it has no buzzer. i want to check this to be sure my overtemp switch is working. i always chk it on a used motor as insurance against ruining an engine. was wandering if this ckt works the same on a force as it does on other outboards and if so what other problem could i have that would cause no overheat alarm.
thanks,
paul
 

fucawi

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Re: how does over temp switch work?

same process on the Force ..grounding the wire should sound the buzzer ....so broken wire ....no buzzer/faulty or no live feed to buzzer ..ie igniton on ...
 

jerryjerry05

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Re: how does over temp switch work?

Look under the dash there should be a small round/black thing.That should be the buzzer.
Your key needs to be on when you test.
Can't find it? I might have one.J
 

Frank Acampora

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Re: how does over temp switch work?

The overtemp switch is a simple bimetallic design. heat bends the internal bimetal strip and at a certain temperature it goes to ground on the engine block where it is mounted. Since they are basically internal and sealed, there is no way to test the switch on the engine, other than heating the head with a propane torch. Grounding the wire will test the system from power source to engine but not the switch itself.

Power is USUALLY taken from the "I" or "A" terminal of the ignition switch. This will turn off the buzzer when the switch is off as this is an accessory terminal powered only when the switch is on. However, power can be taken from the battery terminal of the ignition switch or any positive wire under the dash although strictly speaking, this is not correct.

Power is routed through one wire or terminal of the buzzer or light and the wire (orange on older models) that goes to the engine is connected to the other. If the buzzer is functional and has power, when the bimetal closes, a circuit is completed and the buzzer sounds. Since I am half deaf, I prefer a light. You can buy 12 volt signal lights in a couple of colors (I prefer red) at Radio Shack for only a couple of bucks

If you want to install a gauge, you must either disconnect the bimetal switch or use a separate wire. The gauge sending unit can be mounted in the head where there is a stainless plug or you can drill and tap a boss in the block, location depending upon the size of the engine. Three and four cylinder engines have one right behind the head at the top of the block.

Strictly speaking, it is not absolutely necessary to drill and tap for a gauge sender: I have seen on older Evinrudes the sender held in contact with the outside of the head by a simple "L" bracket attached to one of the bolts. It works, but since only the end of the sensor is in contact and the body is exposed to air, it is slow to heat and slow to respond to changes.
 

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Re: how does over temp switch work?

or remove the sender bi metal unit and attach a couple of tempary wires and stick it in a kettle and raise the temp ..cantact should close well before boiling point I think 160 F in your out of date temp scale is about right
 

Stachi

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Re: how does over temp switch work?

You could just install a tell-tale...from the plug on the top of the engine ,with tubing from the barbed fitting you install to a conveniently drilled port, near the top of the lower case of your outboard,that you can see from the helm. Point the stream up , and it will be easier to see........if it is squirting , you are not overheating.. :cool:
 

fordsohc46

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Re: how does over temp switch work?

thanks for all the help. i found the wire from the sensor going into the control box by the helm. but i didnt see a horn inside the control box like have been in my other boats. and the only horn under the helm is the main horn. so i ohmed the temp sensor and found continuity to ground at around 165 f. so i hooked up an old brake light and put it in the dash and installed a tell tale. i ran it on the muffs with the faucet barely turned and the light will came on when it started overheating. then i turned the water on about one turn and the water pump was pumping fine and the light went out in a few seconds. now i just need time to get it to the water and see how she runs under a load.
 

jason32038

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Re: how does over temp switch work?

ford that's a good way to crack a head and ruin an impeller...running dry until it heats up then pumping cold water in a hot block...bad way to test
 
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