How to fix transom leak?

beckoning

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After 3 hours of 2mph trolling for salmon on big, rolling water, I pump out 2+ gallons of bilge water from my 18' CC. I visually inspected all the rivet areas and see no indication of loose rivets. I think water is seeping in at the seam around the transom where the transom meets the aluminum sidewall. My thinking is to wait for warm weather, then squeeze marine silicone seal into that seam. Any thoughts?
 

Beezerchris

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Re: How to fix transom leak?

That might well work if that's where the problem is, but keep in mind that the transom is bearing a lot of stress and load - so structural integrity is very important. Take a look where ever you can at the transom and make sure that you don't have larger issues than can be solved by silicone. It's a drag to do a full replacement but not as much as losing a motor or having a larger leak start up when a piece gives way when you're out on the water.

With any luck it's such a quick fix to keep the water from soaking the woodwork on every trip.
 

GLG fishing

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Re: How to fix transom leak?

To find leaks you need to put water in the hull and then look under the boat for drips. If your boat is an OB model check the knee brace.

Visual inspection is not as good as a foot of water in the hull.

GLG
 

beckoning

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Re: How to fix transom leak?

A few comments on the responses.
1. Thanks for the suggestion to put 1' of water inside and check for drips. If I see a drip, what shoud I do?
2. The entire transom is wrapped on the outside in aluminum and I've done a test on it by tapping with a plastic hammer, and it seems sound throughout.
3. What is the knee brace?

Thanks in advance for your replies.
 

Alpheus

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Re: How to fix transom leak?

If its leaking it only gonna leak from a rivet,crack or between a seem. If its leaking from a rivet or a seam you must remove and replace the rivets to tighten and seal the seam. Use Gluvit to fill the seams and rivets once you verify they are tight. Silicone has no place in a boat for shoring up a hull. Do it right...

This is a knee brace. Make sure its tight and there are no stress cracks around it. This is a main support structure for your transom...

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GLG fishing

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Re: How to fix transom leak?

The knee brace is the first place I would look for leaks. The part that attaches to the hull has 6 or 8 rivets. Those are the ones that take all the stress. Over time they can work themselves lose and cause a leak. To tighten you need to have someone hold a heavy metal object on the outside of the boat on the rivet you are fixing. A sledgehammer works. You then hit the rivet from the inside to reseat the rivet.

Another place to check for leaks is the keel at the front of the boat. Beaching the boat over time has a way of wearing the keel down and putting a hole in it. I found a hole that the PO (previous owner) tried to fix with silicone. He of course did not know how to fix the problem and it continued to leak until I used a piece of aluminum and riveted it to the keel. The patch I put on was backed by 3m5200 and has not leaked since the repair. This repair has worked for me but others may not like the way it looks on the outside of the hull. To each his own. Mine is a fishing boat and have not heard the fish complain yet.

Another place that I found a leak on my boat was on the hull where it sat on the bunks of my trailer. Corrosion from the saltwater usage had made several pinholes. My repair was to take another piece of aluminum backed with 3m5200 and pop rivet it to the hull. I would prefer to put the patch on the inside but again not going to happen until I replace the deck.

Best to check to see if your transom is bad, if so the flexing will cause the rivets to loosen back up. If you find the transom is bad, then when you replace the transom you will want to replace all the rivets that hold the knee brace at that time. Your knee brace may also be in bad shape with corrosion or it may have cracks. This would be the time to repair and strength up the knee brace as well. I did see a post on this website of a repair to a knee brace and the guy used stainless steel machine screws with 3m5200 to replace the rivets. It looked like a great solution to his problem.

What do I do on my boat? I check for leaky rivets once or twice a season. I test by putting a foot of water in the boat and crawl under it with a felt pen and mark all the leaks. I then remove the water and drill out all the ones that I have marked. I then take pop rivets that are made to seal and goop them with 3m5200 and install them. This is a temporary fix as the correct way to fix them is to remove the deck (floor) and replace them with solid rivets and gluvit. If and when I do replace the floor I will be fixing it the that way. I will use an air tool and a bucking bar to make the repairs.

How do I figure out what to do to fix a problem on my boat? I go to this site and use the search function and plug in my search terms and read the results. Most of the questions have been asked before and a quick search sometimes answers your question faster and the explanation is more detailed than what I gave you on my pervious post.

One last thought as a reread your post. You mention that you thought that the leak could be from the seam that is between the transom and the sidewall. That seam has a double row of rivets and that one would be the last place that I would suspect a leak. I could be wrong but water in the hull test would remove all doubt.

Hope this all helps you with you boat and yes wait for warmer weather.:)

GLG
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Pugetsound

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Re: How to fix transom leak?

The knee brace is the first place I would look for leaks. The part that attaches to the hull has 6 or 8 rivets. Those are the ones that take all the stress. Over time they can work themselves lose and cause a leak. To tighten you need to have someone hold a heavy metal object on the outside of the boat on the rivet you are fixing. A sledgehammer works. You then hit the rivet from the inside to reseat the rivet.

Another place to check for leaks is the keel at the front of the boat. Beaching the boat over time has a way of wearing the keel down and putting a hole in it. I found a hole that the PO (previous owner) tried to fix with silicone. He of course did not know how to fix the problem and it continued to leak until I used a piece of aluminum and riveted it to the keel. The patch I put on was backed by 3m5200 and has not leaked since the repair. This repair has worked for me but others may not like the way it looks on the outside of the hull. To each his own. Mine is a fishing boat and have not heard the fish complain yet. ther place that I found a leak on my boat was on the hull where it sat on the bunks of my trailer. Corrosion from the saltwater usage had made several pinholes. My repair was to take another piece of aluminum backed with 3m5200 and pop rivet it to the hull. I would prefer to put the patch on the inside but again not going to happen until I replace the deck.

Best to check to see if your transom is bad, if so the flexing will cause the rivets to loosen back up. If you find the transom is bad, then when you replace the transom you will want to replace all the rivets that hold the knee brace at that time. Your knee brace may also be in bad shape with corrosion or it may have cracks. This would be the time to repair and strength up the knee brace as well. I did see a post on this website of a repair to a knee brace and the guy used stainless steel machine screws with 3m5200 to replace the rivets. It looked like a great solution to his problem.

What do I do on my boat? I check for leaky rivets once or twice a season. I test by putting a foot of water in the boat and crawl under it with a felt pen and mark all the leaks. I then remove the water and drill out all the ones that I have marked. I then take pop rivets that are made to seal and goop them with 3m5200 and install them. This is a temporary fix as the correct way to fix them is to remove the deck (floor) and replace them with solid rivets and gluvit. If and when I do replace the floor I will be fixing it the that way. I will use an air tool and a bucking bar to make the repairs.

How do I figure out what to do to fix a problem on my boat? I go to this site and use the search function and plug in my search terms and read the results. Most of the questions have been asked before and a quick search sometimes answers your question faster and the explanation is more detailed than what I gave you on my pervious post.

One last thought as a reread your post. You mention that you thought that the leak could be from the seam that is between the transom and the sidewall. That seam has a double row of rivets and that one would be the last place that I would suspect a leak. I could be wrong but water in the hull test would remove all doubt.

Hope this all helps you with you boat and yes wait for warmer weather.:)

GLG
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GLG guess we stay up later than most.
 

beckoning

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Re: How to fix transom leak?

GLG, thanks. This is a big help. I will do the "water in the hull" bit. Since I put the boat in a hoist and raise the motor everytime I leave it in the hoist, I'll bet the knee brace is loosening. I like the ss screw idea if I can get to the knee brace for repairs.

thank again.
 

GLG fishing

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Re: How to fix transom leak?

Your welcome and happy hunting.

Ed yea tis the season to stay up late,
If you call 11 PM late. LOL

GLG
 
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