Hull identification lonestar

[james__12345]

I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this, but I dont see anywhere else that it seemed it would fit. I have a lonestar aluminum boat that I can't seem to find the model of and I was hoping that someone here could help me. I'm wanting to find the weight and hp rating and all that for it, but I cant find out what model it is. I found a list of what is supposed to be all of their boats, but none of the ones I can find in the list match my boats measurements.

It is 16 foot 4 inches long. It has four seats that run across it, and three of those seats have tanks under them for floatation (not foam, but tanks). The other seat is the livewell. At the top of the transom the boat is 48 inches wide. At the widest point the transom is 50 inches. The transom is 18 inches tall at the edges, the area where the motor mounts is 15.5 inches. At the widest point of the boat at the top it is 58 inches. At the widest point at water level (where the rib goes down the side of the boat) it is about 51 inches wide. I'm not sure where exactly they measure the beam on the lists I had but neither of those numbers match up anyway.
Sorry about the pictures being sideways, they're not like that on my computer, and I've tried three or four times to get them to turn out right on here.

 

[Woodonglass]

Re: Hull identification lonestar

Have you tried here...Lone Star - Classic Boat Library

 

[james__12345]

Re: Hull identification lonestar

The 54 speedking and the 55 speedking and speedking runabout are close, but they're all only 16 feet. This one is over 16. Also, the beam measurements only match if measured at the TOP of the boat, but I've always read the beam is measured at water level. Assuming thats where they measured the beam I guess it's one of those. I would assume not the runabout because its a completely open boat, but I might be wrong. Those were the lists I had checked before. I was thinking it was the beam measurement that didn't match up, but it looks like it was the length.

 

[jbcurt00]

Re: Hull identification lonestar

Boat length was (is?) not as simple as it should be. I have 2 15ft Starcraft Jets. 1's 14' 6" the other is 14' 9", built 10-15yrs apart. An 18ft Starcraft Holiday is 18' 6". Other Holiday years may have been shorter or even longer.

Sometimes the measured dimension was to the outside edge of the transom end cap (corner bracket that has a hand hold on yours), which added an inch or 2. On other's it's measured just below that cap, so it's 'only really' measuring how wide the transom is, not the added trim. This method would be more accurate (IMHO) as a guide to meet the USCG horsepower rating for the boat. It'd be the actual transom's width.

The maximum beam of the boat could also be measured from the rubrail to the rubrail, less the actual rubber insert, or not. Other's only measured from the side of the hull to the side of the hull, no trim. Again, measuring at the waterline would be more accurate to describe the boat's character in the water but if a 60" boat would sell better then a 58" wide boat, a manufacturer didn't have to list were they measured the boat in it's spec sheet that could be used at a dealer, and without re-tooling or designing a 60" boat, overnight the 1957 58" ShallowWater could become the 1958 60" DeepWater (those years, beams & models were MADE UP as an example ONLY, and ARE NOT accurate)

The brackets supporting the seats on your boat look to have only been used on the mid to late 50's aluminum boats. Pour over all the pix & details at FG, and make a best guess-ti-mate on which it could be.

The 1957 Skipper (pix not shown) was a 16' version of the '57 Commander (artist rendering, 14') which used those brackets. But the details don't match yours, too wide I think.

Try a google image search for a LoneStar boats, you may find another pix similar to yours. Add that info to what you think is a good guess at FG & that may be as close as you'll get.

Sounds like you have already settled on the 1954/5 SpeedKing.

Nice boat, BTW......

 

[james__12345]

Re: Hull identification lonestar

The 55 speed king picture looks just like my boat. The other 16's are wider than this one, and most of them have foam instead of tanks. After seeing that picture, knowing now that the length measurements aren't exact, and that they probably measured the widest part of the boat, not the measurement at the waterline for the beam, I'm almost positive that its either the 54 or 55 speed king. Does anyone know of any obvious differences between the 54 and 55. The length transom and beam measurements and the capacity are all the same. The 54 weighs 7 pounds more than the 55, but the 54 is rated for a 33 hp, and the 55 is only rated for a 25. I have rebuilt the transom, and added some wiring, so weighing them isn't going to work.

 

[64osby]

Re: Hull identification lonestar

James, Nice Lone * Star. They are great little tinny's. Love my 14' Big Fisherman.

The difference in the years is meaningless. They probably didn't change anything on the aluminum, the amount of foam may have changed. The HP difference is not rated by the mfg, but the "Outboard Motor Association" or some organization like that. They may have changed the way boats are rated from one year to the next, therefore causing the reduction in hp. The outboard mfg's may have changed the motor weight / hp.

The other thing is a boat may have been made in 54 or 55 and not sold until 56 or 57. The boat would not be registered until it is sold. So the original paperwork on the boat might not be really accurate.

Have fun with it.

 

[james__12345]

Re: Hull identification lonestar

Thanks jbcurt00 and 64osby for the compliments. Clearly you two are able to see through the mess to the potential. I started stripping the paint, but I started to late, and it was time to get back on the water so it will have to wait for now. I plan to go back with a metalic silver, or possibly silver and black two tone, breaking it at the rib down the side of the boat.

As far as the hp rating, I had actually considered the way the boats were rated having changed, maybe someone here will have a little more info on that. It really doesn't matter all that much, because I wont be replacing the 18hp I have on it right now any time soon, I'm just the curious type that likes to know the details on what I've got. As far as paperwork, there's not any. All I have is the registration card.