I feel the need, the need for...

Chuck G.

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Okay, forget all that talk about looks and design and gas mileage and economics and optimum cruising speeds and gas flow gauges and propeller efficiency. Let's talk about what's really important in today's modern world of boating:

Raw, brutal speed.

I'm thinking about buying a 40' Mainship to live aboard. I went out on one the other day, and at full throttle we were whipping along at (and I hope you're sitting down) a mind-numbing, gut-wrenching, bone-shaking 25.4 MPH.

I still shudder when I think of how close we were to actually blacking out from the G forces. It's not something I'd recommend for anyone without proper training.

Yet, strange as it sounds, I wanted more.

So, the question is, how to attain a few more of them dear, beloved MPH's? Without having done any research on it (yet), I figure there are four things at play:

1. Paint. I'm sure there are special 'frictionless' paints out there that'll tack on an MPH or two. Expensive, I'll bet. Do special paints last longer than regular paint? If so, that'd have to be taken into account.

2. Propellers. Assuming there's some kind of gas/power ratio going on, I wouldn't mind sacrificing a tad of MPG for another MPH or three.

3. Turbochargers. Is this feasible, or do marine engines & transmissions have some kind of inherent limitation that cars don't have? Most likely the boat'll have a pair of 454's.

4. Hydrofoils, or the boat version of canard wings on an aircraft. Not actual hydrofoils, that is, just 'wings' to help lift the hull off the water and reduce some of the drag, which in turn translates to speed. In an ideal world they'd be operated by hydraulics, tucked up against the side when not in use.

Unfortunately (and you may find this hard to believe), a Google search for "Mainship hydrofoil kits" produced very few results, darn the luck.

As far as the turbochargers go, I'm not looking to turn these into some 9,000 RPM monsters -- a small boost would be just fine. And it would only be for short spurts, less than a minute. It would really be done just for the fun of it. One of those "Somebody's gotta do it" stories.

Plus, imagine how the ads will look when I sell it one day:

Only turbocharged 40' Mainship on the planet.

Yee-haw. :)

Thanks for any thoughts,
Chuck
 

Silvertip

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Re: I feel the need, the need for...

Why screw up a perfectly good boat trying to make it do something it was not intended to do? Buy one that does what you want as long as you are not worried about fuel economy. Getting a Chevy sedan to perform like a Corvette costs money and you still come up short so why not just buy the 'Vette. But what the heck, I once stuffed a small block Chevy into a 1972 Vega so I understand your thinking.
 

tashasdaddy

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keeping the hull and prop clean, non fouling paint, are about the only really feasible things, unless you have more money than sense. 2 engines turning 9000 in the engine room, there's no telling how many they will kill, when they turn loose and parts flying everywhere. 25 on a 40 footer is pretty good. the nuclear carriers only run about 33 wot.
 

Bondo

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Re: I feel the need, the need for...

Why Screw Around,.......

Money's No Object,.........

Junk the Chevies,+ Drop in Twin Turbines.........
 

Silvertip

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There is water flowing in the exhaust so the turbos would not like that at all.
 

QC

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If you want to blow 'em up there are perfectly good bolt on supercharger kits for that . . . Frankly you should be happy with simply planing that boat. You wanna go fast, buy a go fast boat. You want a 40' cruiser, well . . . you got one and 25 MPH is flying if it's the 40' Double Cabin that I think it is.

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Texasmark

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Re: I feel the need, the need for...

PT 109 and the likes were about 50' weren't they. Had 3 each V-12's or so 900 hp Packards and could churn out 50 mph. There is some comparison for where you have to go if you want your cruiser to take off.

HTH

Mark
 

bekosh

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QC

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Just so guys don't get confused . . . actually that turbine runs at over 20,000 RPM. The torque noted is at the tranny output shaft after a 3.25/1 reduction. Sooooo in actuality it makes 1200 lb/ft. divided by 3.25 = 369 lb/ft. at the engine . . . Which proves again that torque is not all you need, in fact you don't need very much at all, you need torque and RPM or you ain't got diddly . . .

Sorry, personal crusade to correct the disrespect of horsepower that stupid marketing people have confused the public about . . . Carry on.

BTW, I'm with bekosh, as long as we're trying to torch this thing, let's do it right.
 

seven up

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Re: I feel the need, the need for...

...whatever it is I ain't feelin' it. don't loose your head.:devil:


Enjoy
 

Coors

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Lol, Silvertip, I had a buddy that a Dodge 440 shoe-horned into a Dodge Colt. I drove it once...
 

kenmyfam

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Re: I feel the need, the need for...

Why try to make a ferarri out of a chevette ????
 
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