I got a free boat!

Panotaker

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I almost feel bad putting up my restoration project on my boat after seeing some of the restoration projects that others have posted. Mine is basically just a dirty boat. Long story short. This single lady I know bought a lake front property house around 20 years ago. The house came with a beautiful boat dock. So she goes out and buys a brand new 2004 Four Winns Horizon 194 boat, and Yamaha wave runner 1200 XLT to put on the boat dock. They use the boat a couple of times when they first got it, and then the boat was hung from the rafters on the covered boat dock, and it has been sitting there unused for the last 16 years. The boat doesn't even have the registration numbers on the side of the hull, so I don't think they used it much. The boat is super dirty from just sitting, but it is out of the water, in the shade from the giant roof of the boat dock. So it hasn't got rain or sun damage. She asked me if I knew anybody that would haul off the junk boat, so I volunteered to take it. That's basically how I got the boat for free, and I got the wave runner too. So I go out there to clean the boat with a cheap electric pressure washer, and to my surprise, the dirty just fell off and the boat basically looks brand new. I didn't have to use any chemicals on it, just water from the pressure washer. Now I need to get the engine ready to start the boat. I plan to take out the spark plugs, but some oil in the cylinders, turn the engine over by hand, change all the fluids, put a battery in it and some new gas, and see if she fires up.
 

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GA_Boater

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Welcome aboard.

You have more to do than getting the motor running and go boating. You have about 16 years of maintenance to catch up on.

Bellows are shot, impeller is probably hard as a rock, carb probably needs a rebuild and other things need to be looked at.

She cleaned up nicely and with any luck you do have a rare freebie that won't drive you to the poorhouse.

What motor and drive does she have?
 

DeepCMark58A

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Yeah it is going to take more than a pressure washer but looks like you have an actual good free boat.
 

JASinIL2006

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Looks nice. You have some overdue maintenance facing you, but assuming no major engine or outdrive problems, you may have lucked out and found the rare 'free' boat that doesn't end up costing thousands and thousands of dollars to make it serviceable.

If you're new to boating, be sure to take a boat safety course. There are some decent online courses, although a face-to-face course would probably be even more useful.
 

Timr71

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Congrats! You might be the first poster on iboats with a "free" boat that doesn't actually need a full stringer and transom replacement job! Good luck getting the engine squared away.
 

AShipShow

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Agree with the others... You should go buy a lottery ticket cuz you're the first "free" boat I've ever seen that might actually not require a second mortgage!

It appears they came with a volvo penta drive... So as mentioned, you need new bellows, impellar, drive oil change, probably cables.

Not sure where you're located, but if the boat was not winterized, odds are the engine might be toast. Lots of things need to be investigated, ESPECIALLY before firing the engine up.

You're in the right place tho... However, a lot of your answers may be over in the Volvo subforum.

Good Luck!
 

Timr71

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Agree with the others... You should go buy a lottery ticket cuz you're the first "free" boat I've ever seen that might actually not require a second mortgage!

It appears they came with a volvo penta drive... So as mentioned, you need new bellows, impellar, drive oil change, probably cables.

Not sure where you're located, but if the boat was not winterized, odds are the engine might be toast. Lots of things need to be investigated, ESPECIALLY before firing the engine up.

You're in the right place tho... However, a lot of your answers may be over in the Volvo subforum.

Good Luck!

Looks like he might be in Texas. So, again, he may have dodged the winterization issue too! Lucky lucky lucky!
 

Scott Danforth

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you may have the only free boat that wont cost you more than buying a boat

buy a lottery ticket.
 

Panotaker

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Okay, here is the latest update on the free boat. I found out why it was free. I put a battery in the boat, but i had to pick up the engine hatch because the electric lift didn't work. Once I got the hatch open, I found out that the engine compartment had been under water up to the top of the starter. I can see the water line. There was no water in it today, but it did have water in it at one time because I can see the water line. The starter is toast and wouldn't do anything, probably because it was under water. So it at least needs a new starter. The electric start hatch motor is toast too. I think the little blower motor is toast, and so is the bilge pump. All those things are minor. The main thing is starting the boat. I checked the oil, and the oil looks like brand new oil. So I don't think there is any water in the block. I took the fuel gauge sensor off of the top of the gas tank, and it has at least a quarter tank of gas in it. So i definitely have to clean the tank. the engine is a V8 5.0L with a carburetor on it, which is good, because I can rebuild a carburetor. Fuel injection would have been a lot more complicated for me to fix. Plus I think the fuel pump for a carburator engine is a whole lot cheaper than a fuel injected fuel pump. Also with a carburetor, I think I can start the engine with a small portable fuel tank like for an outboard motor. Let me know if that will work. I know how to fix cars, not boats. Now about the starter, do I have to get an expensive marine starter, or can I use a car starter. It has a small motor on the starter, and it looks like it is held on by two bolts. I may have to jump over to the motor forum to get these questions answered, but I figured I would let you guys know the update on the boat. So the question is, how did the engine compartment get water in it, if the boat is hanging from the rafters in a covered boat dock. I got a feeling someone took the plug out and forgot to put it back. Then they lowered the boat and left it sitting in the water with the trapeze under the boat, that is why the boat didn't sink. Since they don't have a trailer, they must have called a mobile mechanic and they quoted them an arm and a leg to fix the boat. My next step is to disconnect the fuel line, put a starter motor on it, and see if she fires up with spraying some starting fluid in the carburetor.
 
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chevymaher

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Yes you need a marine starter. They have a screen that prevents sparks from flying and exploding the boat. I paid 55 bucks for a brand new starter with a chart showing it being tested. Amps and torque produced. They say you get what you paid for. I paid for a starter and it starts everytime. I can buy 7-8 of them for the price of what your seeing.

Google marine starter. Majority of the hits are the place I got mine. message me if you cant find it.
 

Fat al

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From experience: there is nothing more expensive than a free boat. Except maybe a free horse!!!
 

Scott Danforth

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You need marine EVERYTHING or you risk blowing up. Never run a motor on starting fluid (ether)

Pull the starter and rebuild it, or get a new one

Trim pump motors are cheap
 

Buckischloo

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I have a car that has been sitting for 26 years. When looking into firing it up, it was suggested that I may want to pre oil the engine using a shaft that will turn the oil pump by removing the
distributor. You may want to look into it.

OIL PUMP PRIMER TOOL GM Chevy V6 V8 Small and Big block Fits all small and big blocks including popular sizes of 327 350 355 383 388 400 406 427 434 454 Designed to prime the lubricating system of a rebuilt engine prior to its first start to prevent the damage of a dry start. It works by connecting to the oil pump shaft through the distributor hole and inserting in oil pump. For use with 3/8" hand drill. * Black Oxide finish, TRIANGLE SHAPED driver end to eliminate chuck slippage * Aluminum bushing to insert in manifold for centering of tool
 

Panotaker

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Update. I removed the old starter, the bearings are rusted and won't turn. I ordered a new marine starter. It Should be here on Monday. So Tuesday I will be going out there. The boat is at the lake, around 45 minutes from my house, so I can't go work on it everyday. I checked the fuses. All the fuses are good, except for the blower fuse. The radio comes on, the gauges move, and the toggle switches light up. Next step is to change the fluids, remove plugs and add oil in the cylinders, hook up a portable gas tank, and fire it up.
 

Scott Danforth

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I would pull the drive and do the maintenance prior to firing it up. that impeller is toast from age.

no sense over-heating the motor
 

Panotaker

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Here is the latest update on the free boat. More details later.
 

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das_army_life_yah

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I wish I could get a free boat......since I had to buy all the tooling I’m at about $2500 so far just to rebuild the motor, stringers/transom, and deck. That’s not including the wiring, upholstery work, or gelcoat I’ll have to do once I get the deck back on. Given that thing is cruising on the water now, I’d say you got a stellar deal. Id look into the asking price for that thing for the shape it’s in and maybe sell it to get a “proper” project boat. :laugh:
 

Panotaker

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Okay, here is what it took to get the boat running. I put a new marine starer in it and a new battery, and checked to make sure the engine wasn't locked up. I disconnected the fuel line going to the fuel tank. I stuck the fuel line in a 5 gallon plastic portable fuel tank. I disconnected the fuel line at the carburetor, hit the key, and the fuel pump worked and shot out fuel out the other end. So I got fuel. I took the carburetor off and took it home to rebuild it. I was expecting a gummed up carburetor with a bunch of varnish in it, but when I took that little Holley 2 barrel apart, it was clean as a whistle on the inside. So I went ahead and cleaned all the ports with carburetor cleaner and put it back together. I went back out to the boat with a new distributor cap, rotor, and spark plugs. Installed the carb, cap, rotor and spark plugs. I lowered the boat from the rafters and put it in the water. I checked for leaks and the bilge was bone dry. I had the starter solenoid wired backwards, so I reversed the two wires going to the solenoid. I left the throttle linkage disconnected from the carb so I could give it throttle while by buddy operated the key. Time for the smoke test. I primed the carb by opening and closing the throttle. My friend hit the key and the engine fired right up and idled perfectly! We couldn't believe it! It ran perfectly without skipping a beat. I checked the voltage at the battery and the alternator was working. The engine reach operating temperature and stayed there. So we backed it out of the boat dock, and went for a quick spin. The boat ran perfectly! I could believe my luck. We only had 5 gallons of gas, so we turned around and put it back on the boat dock.

Now about the free boat. I wasn't looking for a boat when I found this one, it was just pure luck that I got this one. Most free boats are junk, and need tons of work. This was the exception. It is basically a brand new 16 year old boat, that was stored in a covered boat dock, out of the water, and out of the sun, unused for 16 years. It just had a ton of dirt on it, and it didn't start. The lady bought a boat, and just never used it. She got tired of looking at a dirty boat behind her house, and gave it away. There are probably a few woman out there in the same situation. Either they got divorced, or their husband died, and they got a bunch of his toys, collecting dust. If you look around, you can probably find a deal like I got. Eventually, people get tired of paying fees to store stuff, and just give it away.

Now back to the boat. The trim motor needs to be replaced, it is also rusted. The blower motor that gets the fumes out of the engine bay needs to be replaced. The electric arm that opens up the engine bay needs to be replaced. The tach doesn't work, and the volt meter gauge doesn't work. I'm guessing they have bad grounds. The boat needs all the normal maintenance items replaced like the impeller, bellows, and stuff like that. The gas stank needs to be cleaned out, but the boat looks, runs and drives like new. It just needs a few minor problems fixed on it. Right now I got about 400 bucks in it, plus my labor. Yeah I know, I got lucky!
 
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