Info on triumph boats

[dkjr47]

I am looking to buy A 190 bay Triumph boat, what are the pros and cons? Also do they have any problems with loose hardware over time?

 

[blifsey]

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I'm interested in hearing on this from Triumph owners also. I looked at them back when they were Logic boats. Its my understanding from reading various internet forums that the loose hardware issues are better and maybe resolved. There is some type of thread loc used with the fasteners now. Also, I think earlier problems of decals staying on (reg. numbers, etc.) is better (maybe a hull prep/cleaner or something). I still read of flexible/wavy hulls and poor "fit and finish". In next yr or 2 I would like to move to something I could take to salt water and like the concept of these boats.<br /><br />What say ye' Triumph owners <br />BL...

 

[mer1844]

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I purchased a Triumph 17 Center Console boat a couple of months ago and have been well pleased with its performance. My wife and I use the boat in fresh water lakes and also the intracoastal waterway here in North Carolina. At times, the waterway can become very rough and choppy, this boat handles those conditions very well. I guess thats why Sea Tow now uses Triumph Boats in their business. I have not experenced any problems with screws coming loose. As far as stickers such as numbers sticking to the hull, no problems as long as you use the 3M Primer supplied with the boat. You apply the primer to the hull, let it dry a few minutes, then apply your numbers. One good thing about this process, is the the numbers do not stick immediately, if you have one out of whack or crooked, you have a few minutes to correct it. In very rough water such a wakes from large tugs or cabin cruisers, you may notice a slight flex in the hull. This is normal, it also helps disipate some of the force created by the wake. The hull is by no means as slick as fiberglass/gel coat. There are waves in the finish. But I see that as one less worry I have to deal with. A new boat is like a new car, you hate to see that first scratch on her. With this hull, who cares? First of all, its not that easy to scratch or ding, secondly, it is very simple to repair. A little sanding, little dry buffing, she's good as new in 5 minutes time. I'm not a dealer or sales person, just a happy owner, I highly recommend the Triumph line. Feel free to e-mail me if you have any other questions or concerns about the boat.

 

[bryanredfish]

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A fishing buddy of mine just bought one a few months ago. He likes the light-weight design. He had some serious problems with the deck bolts popping up, and had to have it completely redone. According to him (and how the boat looks), it is basically made out of tough plastic -- easy to maintain. He does complain of how easy it is to scratch the inside of the boat and these scratches hold dirt very easily. It is, keep in mind, an economy boat, but I like it, and now that he has the deck issues taken care of, so does he. Good luck.

 

[JGL64]

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I have owned a 170 DC with a 70 HP Yamaha for just over a month now and I am very pleased with its performance from a both a use and care perspective. As a family of 5, we tube and fish from it on a PA lake, and I have taken it fishing in the South Jersey bay area. The boat has performed above my expectations. It handles the rough water well, and you stay dry. I agree that the hull has a couple of waves and wiggles and the boat gives alittle on hard impacts, but it is not intended to look like or ride like a fiberglass boat. Clean-up is a snap, I coated the hull with some UV protectant. Now at the end of the day, I just flush the engine, hose down the boat, wipe it clean, clean the seat pads, vacum the carpet and put it away. I do highly recommend the bimini top option. I have only had it for a month, but I already have 20 hours on the engine and I can say this is no bathing beauty, but a well-rounded workhorse.

 

[RJS]

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I seriously considered thte Logic/Triumph. I didn't buy one because it looked to me that it would be hard to clean and I didn't like the floor flexing. I didn't even considering test driving one. I think they're good boats,but I just didn't like the way the looked.

 

[JGL64]

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Thinking about a Triumph? Wife, 3 kids, 125# black Lab and I spent 7 fun filled hours on the lake today in our 170DC. Cleanup time...45 minutes including engine flush and she looks like I never took her out today. Heading to the Chesapeake Bay on Wednesday and hoping for atleast 7 more!

 

[snapperbait]

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These Boats are made from the same plastic as waterski toys like hydroside kneeboards.. Over time after leaving them in the hot sun the foam core will delaminate from the plastic skin.. This will cause large areas of the plastic to pop out like a big bubble and flex a great deal. The flexing will cause the foam core to break up. Once this happens there is no way to repair this.<br />Expect to see these problems in 2 or 3 years.....

 

[JGL64]

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Snapperbait what model Triumph/Logic do you own? How long have you owned this product? Perhaps you could post a few pictures?

 

[BillP]

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I was in Key West last month and one of the rental fleets had one for rent. The boat looked good and was rented everyday for the week I was there. If the fleet guys are using them I suspect they hold up well.

 

[moretodaythanyesterday]

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What the heck is snapperbait talking about? There is no foam core in these boats. I second what mer1844 says. I've had the 170CC with a 70hp Yamaha since February. 130 hours with no problems. I too read the thing about screws backing out but have no visual signs of such. The other day, out of curiosity, I got out my #1 phillips and could not get them any tighter. No floor flex in the 170. Deck is made from one giant sheet of what looks to be Starboard. They have reduced the motor rating from 90 to 70 hp. Apparently, with the 90 it chine walks.

 

[JGL64]

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moretodaythanyesterday, I have a 170DC with a 70HP Yamaha that I purchased in June. Like you, I have really enjoyed this boat to date. I was wondering if you mounted a fuel filter/water separator on your boat. If so, any tips on what you found to be the best location?

 

[CajunFishMaster]

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I looked into this brand boat when I was in the market. That's when i went and bought my FishMaster. The main reason for me not to buy the Triumph was the plastic hull. I fish the gulf of mexico often and frequently see 4-6' seas. Any higher and I'm finding my way to the marshland. Afterall, all I have is a bay boat also. I liked the higher sides for leaning of the triumph, but storage was more in the FishMaster. Also, the fishmaster has a "pad" hull design. Just like a bass boat hull, when on step, the boat rides only on the pad. My boat with a 130 Ocean Pro run 30 mph in 4' seas and rides smooth as it can get. This is at just over half throttle with plenty to spare.

 

[snapperbait]

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To moretodaythanyesterday: I'm talking about the polyurethane foam core in the sides of the boat between the hull and the inner liner where you probably have not looked or can't see...If you still don't understand go to thiumph's web page and check out the construction for yourself... www.triumphboats.com/roplene.asp

 

[georgejw]

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I own a 17' DC with a Honda 50 four stoke and love the boat. It is extremely durable, almost completely maintenance free, forgiving in rough seas and easy for one person to handle alone. I was curious to read the post regarding delamination...and concerned. I emailed Triumph with my concerns and posted the reply below. <br /><br />"he is right on with the delamination problem only it does not take 2-3 years it happens in 2-3 minutes. The foam does not bond to the Roplene material, only in the transom on the 190/210 is the foam used for structure and in that case the foam fills the complete void causing a mechanical fit vs. a bond. On those two models we have had only 1/10 of one percent failure on the transoms (I would challenge a FRP boat to show a better record). On your 17 the rate of failure is the same. I will address his concerns online. Thanks for the heads up."<br /><br />These boats ARE the future in boating; I have no doubt. I will and do recommend this boat to anyone who is value conscious and who doesn't want to join the crowd of the "best days of my life...when I bought the boat and when I sold it."

 

[georgejw]

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I own a 17' DC with a Honda 50 four stoke and love the boat. It is extremely durable, almost completely maintenance free, forgiving in rough seas and easy for one person to handle alone. I was curious to read the post regarding delamination...and concerned. I emailed Triumph with my concerns and posted the reply below. <br /><br />"he is right on with the delamination problem only it does not take 2-3 years it happens in 2-3 minutes. The foam does not bond to the Roplene material, only in the transom on the 190/210 is the foam used for structure and in that case the foam fills the complete void causing a mechanical fit vs. a bond. On those two models we have had only 1/10 of one percent failure on the transoms (I would challenge a FRP boat to show a better record). On your 17 the rate of failure is the same. I will address his concerns online. Thanks for the heads up."<br /><br />These boats ARE the future in boating; I have no doubt. I will and do recommend this boat to anyone who is value conscious and who doesn't want to join the crowd of the "best days of my life...when I bought the boat and when I sold it."

 

[Triumph Boats]

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As with any new product or technology on the market there will be some misconceptions and detractors. Generally on this forum I am seeing a lot of really good responses to the questions asked and as a member to Team Triumph I would like to thank those participating. As to the question of delamination, I particularly appreciate GeorgeW posting my reply related to this matter. I will continue monitering this forum and if it is okay with the members would be happy to interject our position or attend to the misconceptions on occasion. We believe we will make a change in the way boats are built and believe strongly that once people understand the product that we will be viewed in the same light as the well established materials (for those who remember when FRP came on the scene). If proper forum etiquette does not allow such obtrusion into your forum please feel free to let me know. If you would like to contact me offline please send an email to customerservice@triumphboats.com. PS I am not a salesperson, just the Service Manager and engineer.

 

[mattttt25]

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TB - thanks for the info and your willingness to jump in and tell the truth. as a new boat owner, i am sometimes skeptic of the answers i see being passed as facts. thanks again-

 

[mnewman5]

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First posting on this great board! I have been reading lot's of threads, mostly in engines, but I felt I had to add my 2 cents here. I have had a Logic 210 for 2 summers now. I put a new Honda 130 on it and now have 300 hours on it. I fish the Gulf of Mexico off Texas. This past summer and fall I made 6 trips of more than 70 miles out each (150 to 160 mile round trip including trolling distance) plus about 8 trips of 20 to 40 miles out. <br /><br />My boat rides better than most mono hull boats, and is mighty dry for a CC. My only complaints have been about the little screws that hold the hatches down. My son in law works with plastic moldings, and he has found some glue we think may secure these screws. <br /><br />Also the gaskets on the starboard hatches have a tendency to come unglued. I don't know if they have fixed that over the past couple of years.<br /><br />I have been caught by unexpected bad weather and have looked up at the top of waves while standing at the helm (I'm 5'10") and these are short period waves, so not real comfortable, but the boat handled them well. <br /><br />The 130 Honda is a bit short on the power side for 4 Big Men and full fish gear, (will run about 28 knots fully loaded & full tank) (I would like 150 to 175 better but was not available in a 4 stroke). I average 3 mpg for each trip (50 to 60 gal gas per trip). <br /><br />Clean up is really fast, I wash down with salt water pump while coming in, and after boating fish, so I just have to spray wash and rinse at the car wash, and flush motor. (10 to 20 minutes) including WD 40 the reels and put back in holders, and back boat into shed.<br /><br />Yes I would buy again if I ever buy another boat (probably won't wear this one out) and maybe won't wear out the motor either.

 

[dogface]

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I looked at these boats last Summer when Walmart was selling them in the parking lot. They seem like a very nice boat as an entry level boat. What concerns me is "flex". I don't see how they would hold up in stressful fishing conditions. I must say that the price was right.<br />Dave