Re: Iraq, Ruby Ridge, Waco.....
Ruby Ridge FACTS*:<br /><br />-Randy Weavers wife, Vicki, was shot in the back while hold their baby to her breasts. The assassins bullet passed through both their bodies, killing both. Federal courts have ruled that it was an assassination but the assassin, an FBI agent, was never put on trial.<br /><br />At the time of the shooting, the FBI has issued a standing order for the snipers to take out anyone they could. It was not an accidental shooting. It is thought this is the reason Lon Horiuchi, the FBI sniper, was never tried
he fired under order.<br /><br />-Weavers son was shot and killed in the woods. Federal agents fired upon him, too, but he was able to return fire before eventually being killed.<br /><br />-Although Randy weaver did not violate any laws, he was convicted of failure to appear at a prior court hearing for a criminal complaint that was found to have been fraudulent filed by the feds.<br /><br />Waco FACTS*:<br /><br />-Tanks collapsed the under ground bunker crushing most of the women and children to death. They were huddled there in a room full of teargas without masks or other devices to help them breathe.<br /><br />-The unarmed adults that tried to flee were machine gunned as they exited the back of the compound. There are FLIR images of this but the govt now blocks any professional evaluation of the tapes.**<br /><br />-When the federal agents first started the shooting, David Koresh dialed 9-1-1 and asked for help. After that, the Branch Davidians started shooting back.<br /><br />-Two unarmed Davidians that didnt know what was happening were walking from the town to their compound. They checked in with and were allowed to pass the FBI/ATF roadblock quite some distance from the compound. They never made it. One was found in a field, the others body lay draped over a fence for 3 days. Both were shot in the back.<br /><br />-Four federal agents were killed, the Davidians killed two and other federal agents killed two.<br /><br /> -There never was any child abuse happening at the Davidian compound. There never were any illegal firearms in the position of the Branch Davidians at any time.<br /><br />-If you follow the trail of hatred that was directed toward the Koresh and his group of weirdoes, it ends with a fraudulent complaint and the Jewish Anti Defamation League (ADL).<br /><br />Anyone that wants to take the time too look into Waco will find overwhelming documentation that the Branch Davidians were innocent victims of on over zealous Attorney General, Janet Reno. I have my own opinion as to why but it is politically incorrect to have. There is a common, but not direct, link between the ADL and Renos sexual orientation.<br /><br />The Elian Gonzalez debacle is more subjective and I believe it was not handled as well as it could have been.<br /><br />OKC Bombing:<br /><br />-Good God, where do we even start with this one??? There are over 50 videotapes (ATM machines, parking lot surveillance cameras, etc) that show the Ryder truck moving through downtown OKC. The FBI will not allow anyone to see them. Some businesses viewed their tape prior to handing them over to the FBI. What they claim is on those tapes dramatically contrasts with the governments version of what happened.<br /><br />The government has continued to refuse to answer specific questions about all the above (except the Gonzales issue).<br /><br />*Note: FACTS indicates these statements are the product of data contained in government documents, exept **.<br /><br />**Note: A company that is under government contract to provide expert evaluation of such images did initial review of the forward-looking infrared images. The company, without knowing who the players were in the video, identified people coming out of the building and being shot by other people strategically stationed outside. The muzzle flashes are clearly visible on the tape. Almost immediately after making their statement, the company issued another written statement indicating they would no long evaluate or comment on the FLIR images because of concern they would lose their government contracts.<br /><br />SoulWinner, you are absolutely dead on the money about the runaway abuse of power. However, you are not a voice crying in the wilderness, you are a series of electrical impulses creating text on the internet.

<br /><br />"It's dangerous to be right when the government is wrong." Voltaire