Is it worth it?

nrf414

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Mid 80's cuddy everything outside is faded, owner claims good maintenance and everything works well. Previous owner added many fishing accessories my current 16' Glastron does not have. I am not going to even consider buying it without testing the electronic controls and compression test. What would you give for this boat in the condition it is in? I have the time and money to restore some of the cosmetics and learn about some of the mechanics, would you?

Appears to be 1985 Galaxy 199 Cuddy with Mercruiser 140
-new steering / shift cables
-rebuilt engine
-trailer has new axle

Owner was not the most knowledgable, I think his wife is nagging him to free up some of his lawn.

Would you? :confused: I like this style but know little about Galaxy.
 

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Bob_VT

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Re: Is it worth it?

Looks like it needs work........ Considering the age and that plywood I would not give much money at all. You present boat looks like a nice rig and the galaxy look like a nightmare!
 

Mark42

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Re: Is it worth it?

I agree with Bob. Yeah, whats with all the plywood? And the seats look like fishing seats where the jump seats should be. Anyway, it does look like the guy worked on it, just not very good at it.

Would make a good free boat.
 

BIGcarpy50

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Re: Is it worth it?

that boat looks like the owner didn't care about it. No cover,DEAD Leaves, Exposed plywood.......Maybe for 500 i would take a chance..but not much more than that.....you got a good rig by the looks of it.
 

BigJ08

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Re: Is it worth it?

Its almost as if the guy replaced the back area/motor cover with plain plywood when the old stuff rotted out, which would need to be taken out and redone correctly.

As mentioned above, I wouldn't give much at all for this thing. I like marks idea, try to get it for free :).

Also, are you thinking of selling ur glastron to buy this or just buy this as an additional boat? If thinking of selling, I vote for keeping the glastron and saving/looking for something else.
 

Lou C

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Re: Is it worth it?

keep looking....that one looks sure to be a money pit.....
 

F14CRAZY

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Re: Is it worth it?

maybe a few hundred bucks but as a major fixer upper or to part out the good stuff
 

nrf414

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Re: Is it worth it?

The glastron stays, but rides really rough on the tri-hulls. This boat would be just for fishing. I don't care much about cosmetics as fish / worm guts always go flying. What I do care about is the risk of mechanical integrity.

Just looking for some opinions.

It is a scary looking boat, but I love the sense of accomplishment after it is said and done. If something went tradgically wrong I could part out the recently rebuilt engine.
 

ondarvr

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Re: Is it worth it?

That's the kind of boat you put a free sign on and hope you don't need to pay to have it hauled away. I saw no fishing upgrades unless old plywood is considered an upgrade. It's junk, don't even think about it.

You could put many "fishing uprgades" on your boat for less than it would cost you get that thing to your house.
 

Bob_VT

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Re: Is it worth it?

Well people have said from free to a few hundred dollars.... I really would lean towards free and part it out.

Keep your eyes open there are alot of projects out there that will satisfy you.
 

Mark42

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Re: Is it worth it?

My guess is that boat will not sell any time soon. Let a few weeks go by, then call and talk to the wife. Tell her you will come and remove that old eye sore from their yard and not charge them anything for the removal service.

Wouldn't be surprised if you get it for free.

If you do, send me the compass as compensation. :D
 

kaferhaus

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Re: Is it worth it?

I'd give em a couple hundred for it as you could get that back from selling the trailer and part out the rest of it. If the outdrive is good you'd make a few hundred off of that.... if the engine has good compression another few hundred.

But as a project? I'd pass. For the money you'd end up putting in it you could buy something ready to go.

That boat has a "jack leg" for an owner and judging by his "work" and lack of care for the boat it's likely just misery looking for a new victim.
 

jennis9

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Re: Is it worth it?

Looks like a can of worms - the patch jobs I see aren't impressive. I wouldn't trust his equipment either by the looks of how he kept his vessel.

IF the engine runs - is a great little engine - they call it an iron duke. We have the same Merc 140 on ours and it is easy to work on and it cooks for us on Lake Erie - not breaking any speed records - but we get where we want to go at a reasonable price.

Get this one for free if you want a project. Like Mark said, let time reduce the price for you. And if the owner wasn't that knowledgable - but liked to tinker... ya never know what 'cher gonna git. Better get the savings up front :)

Oh and if he claimed good maintainence and had to replace the stern area with ply -- would really want to know about the bellows and transom before diving into it.

Let us know how you do...
 

jennis9

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Re: Is it worth it?

Looks like a can of worms - the patch jobs I see aren't impressive. I wouldn't trust his equipment either by the looks of how he kept his vessel.

IF the engine runs - is a great little engine - they call it an iron duke. We have the same Merc 140 on ours and it is easy to work on and it cooks for us on Lake Erie - not breaking any speed records - but we get where we want to go at a reasonable price when gas is $4.85/gal.

Get this one for free if you want a project. Like Mark said, let time reduce the price for you. And if the owner wasn't that knowledgable - but liked to tinker... ya never know what 'cher gonna git. Better get the savings up front :)

Oh and if he claimed 'good maintainence' and had to replace the stern area with ply -- would really want to know about the bellows and transom before diving into it.

Let us know how you do...
 

spudshaft

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Re: Is it worth it?

I dig the style, but that might or might not be a nightmare. On another note, that's kind of a little engine - might be a slug.
 

projecthog

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Re: Is it worth it?

'Course not!

Never is!

This comes down to your own decision, maybe accented by our coloring.

Most of these guys are dead on,.....

However;..... and here it starts.

I would be interested in it as long as I could certify for myself that the engine runs or, for my experience level, at least turns over. I have my own reasons for accepting it that way.

-The out drive is in serviceable condition, I would look for cracks, broken off parts or any other signs of abuse. If so, you are looking at a potential cost of anywhere from to 12-1300 bucks for a refurb leg. Bottom end (foot) 7-800 bucks.
-Don't forget that engine, it may turn over but cost you 4-600 bucks for top end (rings gaskets and or valve job.)

-Never mind the boat cause it will have problems, and that can go from just cleaning it out (sure!) to a total rebuild including floors, transom, and paraphernalia.
The wood doors and trim alone will cost 200 bucks to get back to reasonable shape.
By the looks of this well maintained boat in the pictures, I would without a doubt pay 200 300 dollars to hook on to it and drag it home, my reasons?

I sofar have collected three 4 cylinder chevys with outdrives that are lonely for Aluminum boats, may as well have spares for the spares.

The boat would be inspected, and a weeks worth of beers later, IF it passed MY standards, I would be cleaned, floated, scared into running, then sold for more.
Its gonna fail!...., back to salvaging motor and leg, and anything else that's immediately usable. The boat goes to heaven.

Now you....,

You like it obviously, so you are going to have some part of your mind made up that says, "well I think it is ok!"

Maybe not.

End analysis,.... boat as is (knowing it was maintained well) is worth anywhere from free to 300 bucks depending on how things look after you have paid for it and are finding out.

Advice?

If you are adept at fixing cars, farm equipment, planes or know carpentry, again, you can decide yes or no on your own.
If you are not (that's why you are here to ask), you are looking at an absolute minimum of about 2000 dollars to get that thing looking old and working ok.

If you are like some of us here though, you WILL succeed because of impeccable characters here on Iboats who will go sleepless to help out with very good advice, guidance and knowledge, but you'll be broke for 3 years after.

Budgets are created only to learn how to overcome the limits. (learned that from my government :D)

Don't do it to have a nice boat cheap. That won't work well.
Do it because you want an adventure in nautical engineering and have a yearning to wrench that bugger into submission, it can be a blast, but education costs can be trying.

Good luck, take care,
PH.
 
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