Is this boat worth my time for $500?

trishbowtie

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We are looking to buy/restore our first boat. We found this gem locally for $500.00. It needs ALOT of work. The former owners had her sitting out in all kinds of weather for seven years. As you can see from the pics, the stem of the boat is in great shape...the stern, however is basically destroyed. From the captains chair back, the whole floor is going to need replaced, as well as the motor mount and brackets. I guess my question is...is it worth buying and fixing up...or would it be just a waste of time and money?
 

scca vette

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Re: Is this boat worth my time for $500?

I think that would be a question you would have to ask yourself. If you like the boat and want to spend the time and money to fix it then I would say go for it. I did the same thing when I bought my boat, I looked around at what I wanted and what they cost in good condition. I ended up buying it at a very reasonable price and have spent my time and money making it new. When I am done I will have the boat that I wanted for about 1/3 of what they are selling for. It was a win win situation.

My opinion (not worth 2 cents) is I think it is a good deal IF you want a project boat. Good Luck and keep us posted if you buy it.
 

MAXXIE

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Re: Is this boat worth my time for $500?

I agree with Vette, Now I'm not qualified in any way to "give fix it up" advice, but I too am a 1st time boater this year. I ended up with a boat that needs a whole new floor, as it is rotted through. What my plan is: I did a cheap "cover over" of the floor with ply wood & covered it with some cheap boat carpet just to get through this season. In the winter I plan on gutting the entire interior & do a sort of custom set up, the way I would like it. Next year I'll either trade it in on a newer boat or sell it out right & buy a newer/bigger boat. Atleast that's the plan. So again, like Vette said "it's a question you must answer yourself", are you willing to take the job on? Do you have the $$ to invest in it? What you don't want is what I was finding on ebay when I was looking for a boat: $500-$600 paper weight sitting in your yard for the next few years. Lots of those guy's on ebay, guy's that bit off more than they could chew. That's my (less than 2 cents):D
 

Shrike

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Re: Is this boat worth my time for $500?

When you finally get finished you may have more $ in it than a comparable boat in decent condition would cost. But look at the fun you're gonna have.
 

oops!

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Re: Is this boat worth my time for $500?

depends on the motor/drive.

the hull and trimmings are the easy part. (lol)

but if you have a good running motor and an alpha or volvo drive...its a steal.....if the letters OMC appear....just walk
 

oops!

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Re: Is this boat worth my time for $500?

by the way....welcome to i boats
 

Home Cookin'

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Re: Is this boat worth my time for $500?

if you like fixin' better than boatin', go for it. Me, I'd rather be fishing than rooting out rotten stuff. The 'to do " list you make looking at it is probably a quarter of what you need to do; the $500 is the down payment on the $5000 boat.
 

Lion hunter

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Re: Is this boat worth my time for $500?

What is your time worth?

By the looks of that thing you will have an easy $5k in it before you even look at the motor or outdrive. I'd run. There are a lot better fixers out there than that. That looks like a pay to hual away boat.
 

H20Rat

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Re: Is this boat worth my time for $500?

The 'to do " list you make looking at it is probably a quarter of what you need to do; the $500 is the down payment on the $5000 boat.

This is EXACTLY correct. In the end, you won't have a running boat for at least a year or two, and will spend MORE than a similar boat in good condition. Some people like a project, and want a boat that they had their hands in every single part. If this is you, great find! Otherwise, just keep in mind that is what you are buying...

Also, keep in mind there is such a thing as a unsalvageable fiberglass boat. Fiberglass can be permeable to water under the conditions and in the right areas. The fiberglass itself might be rotted out and no longer seaworthy.
 

Doernuth

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Re: Is this boat worth my time for $500?

The engine looks rough, from what I can see. Does it turn? Rebuilt engines are not cheap.

From the looks of things you are not going to be in the water until at the earliest next spring, if you have a garage to work in all winter. I bought an old boat that needed work but was useable a couple of years ago and have been working on it ever since.

Another thing to consider is the trailer. Trailers are not cheap. Is it in good condition? Are the wheels locked up? If not, trailer may be worth the $500...

Let us know what you decide!! Welcome Aboard!!!
 

180Fisherman

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Re: Is this boat worth my time for $500?

The current owner should be paying you to haul that thing away.
 

erie_guy

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Re: Is this boat worth my time for $500?

Offer $300. The trailer is worth at least that much. Engine is another question? If its OK, you may have your winter project.

Lots of luck !!

erie_guy
Port Clinton, OH
 

Home Cookin'

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Re: Is this boat worth my time for $500?

someone else here needed an engine block for a mooring....
 

The Famous Grouse

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Re: Is this boat worth my time for $500?

No, IMO it's a basket case. Move on.

If you're going to spend time restoring a boat, I would only do it on a boat that will reward your investment by being worth more than the total of (at the very least!!!) the materials and parts you put into it. No chance on this basket case, you'll never get anything near what you put into it if you sold it, much less even a dime for the hundreds of hours of labor it would take.

There are plenty of boats out there that are simply poorly maintained and the owner who is willing to do some work will be well rewarded. I just sold a Crestliner fish and ski that I owned for 3 years for $500 more than I paid for it. Not a huge sum, but when you consider my total cost of the "restoration" was 20 hours spent with a pressure washer, buffer, and carpet scrubber, etc. The only other costs were for the Armor All, 409, SoftScrub, etc cleaning products. That's cheap boat ownership for 3 years.

Now I just took that money, threw in an extra grand and bought a Wellcraft. More than anything it suffers from lack of use, the interior was dirty, needs a buff out, etc, all the usual stuff. I strongly suspect after 10 hours of general cleaning, I'll be $2000 in the black on this boat.

I see a lot of boats on CL that have outdrive issues, but look like in otherwise OK condition. I have to think that on average at least 25% of these would reward the buyer who negotiated hard because their value is depressed much more than the cost of replacing the outdrive simply because so few buyers are willing to take that risk.

Obviously, you have to know your stuff and have good mechanics that can tell you with reasonable certainty what the required repairs will cost.

Grouse
 

relstabw

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Re: Is this boat worth my time for $500?

For what it's worth I paid $500 for my boat but I ckecked the transom and floors and fired up the outboard. I also looked at the trailer. In the end I have about 1500.00 in a great running,great looking (I think) boat. I'd say,unless you're in a hurry keep looking.
 

trishbowtie

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Re: Is this boat worth my time for $500?

ok guys....i found two new boats...lets take a poll and see which one gets the most votes...(personally, im just looking for something to do with my "captain"....lol!)boat1.jpg

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trishbowtie

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Re: Is this boat worth my time for $500?

Thank you all for your input...I've created a new post, plz feel free to read/respond.

Trishbowtie
 

jjacobs007

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Re: Is this boat worth my time for $500?

run or swim away a fast as you can.when ur boat comes you will know.
 

Lion hunter

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Re: Is this boat worth my time for $500?

Can't tell to much from the latest pics but the bottom one looks like it has potential. Here are some things that I would keep in mind in looking.

Trihulls: Great stable fishing boats. If you get one plan on keeping it as the dated look does not bring a high demand. They do ride a rougher than V-hulls but once your stopped they can't be beat for stability. I loved the one I had.

Anything can be fixed: You'd be amazed at some of the work these guys have done here on boats but consider the costs and time associated. Look at the dates the restoration post start and finish, it takes a while

A good tin boat with a good motor can be had pretty cheap (bias here). Repairs are straight forward and nothing you can overcome with basic tools for the most part. Probably the cheapest to restore. But, my last one had a sound hull and good motor and it still cost me about 1K to get it on the water.
 

Steve Mahler

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Re: Is this boat worth my time for $500?

No way. That is a rotted Volvo powertrain, very expensive to fix and almost guranteed to be shot given the picture. Then add the fact that stringers/floor/transom are rotted. Nope, easy to find a good cuddy with an outboard or good running IO for way less than it would cost to bring this one back.
 
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