Is this crazy? or is it just me?

qaztwo

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Re: Is this crazy? or is it just me?

I'm with you on that one.
 

gspig

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Re: Is this crazy? or is it just me?

Guess what a new 1 wire Mercruiser alternator costs. About $300. Ask me how I know. :(
 

MH9371B

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Re: Is this crazy? or is it just me?

I bought a perfectly good remanuf. alternator on ebay for $75.
 

AdamB

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Re: Is this crazy? or is it just me?

Ouch!!!
 

f_inscreenname

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Re: Is this crazy? or is it just me?

Even if no one buys it this time they will just keep listing it. All it takes is one person that doesn't know better.
 

summit1

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Re: Is this crazy? or is it just me?

E-commerce and the internet- Thanks Al Gore!
 

LubeDude

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Re: Is this crazy? or is it just me?

I do a "LOT" of buying and selling on Ebay, I went to the dollar store one time and bought some very pretty glass grape clusters, three of them, $3.00, I came home and took pictures of them in different settings, one in an antigue bowl, one in a brandy glass, and one on an antigue plate. I thought up a great description about how beautiul and intricate they were, and sold them for $28.00. It was on a bet to my wife I made when I saw them in the store. I said, "Man, I could sell these on Ebay for about ten times this", She said, "I bet you cant". So I did.<br /><br />You can sell anything there if you word it right and find the person that wants or needs it.
 

tommays

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Re: Is this crazy? or is it just me?

i think if you read the ebay item you will see that it a big kit for converting a merc 470 to a standard chargeing system<br /><br />it has 5 brackets the alternator, belts, wireing ect and is cheaper than most repiars of a standard 470 chargeing system<br /><br />tommays
 
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Re: Is this crazy? or is it just me?

So is this burnout situation a real big problem on these engines? what exactly happens?
 

tommays

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Re: Is this crazy? or is it just me?

i dont no it first hand but it seams that it was not a great chargeing system the water cooled regulator seams to die and cost about 300 to 400 dollars and the whole rotar stator thing on the crank shaft is just old very old style that was not a great thing even when new<br /><br /><br />tommays
 

DHPMARINE

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Re: Is this crazy? or is it just me?

Between the stator (on these 3.7L motors)and the voltage regulator,you will spend about <br />$525.00.<br />Buy the kit advertised,and you will have a alternator that can be rebuilt for far less (keep it marine)<br />I only question as to how well the mount/belt/adjustment works.Have yet to see one in real life.Maybe a good product.<br /><br />DHP
 

rrmcbride

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Re: Is this crazy? or is it just me?

Originally posted by Mike Kobunski:<br /> So is this burnout situation a real big problem on these engines? what exactly happens?
I have had to replaced mine, with stock parts. Seems like I spent about $160.00 total for the regulator and stator...Been working fine for past 5 years now..<br /><br />What happened is the stator shorted out and the voltage would go up to 18 volts and cook the battery... I did run the boat for the rest of the season that way but kept the lights and blower on to use up some of the extra juice...
 

MrBill

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Re: Is this crazy? or is it just me?

Mike (and others)...I did the conversion on my 3.7L and it's been the best money I ever put into this boat. The conversion kit you provided the link for however may not be the one you'll need. That kit is not complete for all applications and is more expensive than what you should be able to get the kit for. The kit shown is for applications without power steering and can only be mounted on the front, top, starboard side of the engine. If you have PS or if you just want to mount the alternator on the lower starboard side of the engine for space or other reasons, you'll need one of the two types of low mount conversion kits. One provides an adjustable mounting housing and a separate pulley in order to run two belts (one for the PS, one for the alternator. I purchased this kit (for applications with PS) for $370. The other allows low mount withou an additional pulley for non-power steering models. In either case, I think low mount is the best option, since it runs with a short belt and makes for a more compact, easy to complete conversion. <br /><br />Check out the following explanation, instructions and links for purchase...<br /> http://www.jimthompson.net/boating/Electronics/Alternator_conversion.htm <br />Here's the kit I got...<br /> http://marineengineparts.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/page99.html <br />Note that you can get just the alternator for about $175, some places sell all the conversion parts separately..like the bracket for lower starboard side mount for Power Sterring apllications (part # 18-5968 -Sierra)<br /> http://www.aqua-engine-parts.nl/marineparts/parts/mercruiser/mercruiserelectrical.pdf <br />Breezseworks sells a w/PS low mount kit without alternator for $150 and also sells upgraded water-cooled voltage regulators if you don't want to do the conversion. These are suppose to be pretty good too. Check out all the Breezeworks pages for 3.7l/470 parts:<br /> http://www.breezeworks.net/index.html?target=p_12.html&lang=en-us <br />FYI - When I did my conversion I was still skeptical...and did not remove the magnets from the stator flywheel or take out the stator and voltage regulator - "just in case". I now regret that decision and don't want to remove the pulley etc. now, but i will remove the regulator in the Spring and replace the cooling line.<br /><br />As you can see...Breezeworks also sells high mount and low mount conversion kits with and without the alternator, that do not require a second belt and addtional clearance, either one for $89. Go to crankshaft, flywheel and alternator link on left side of page for these and other 3.7L parts<br /> <br /> http://www.breezeworks.net/index.html?target=p_12.html&lang=en-us <br /><br />The $89 Breezeworks low mount kits (with or without PS) do not use the additional pulley and drive belt, they just change the belt length. Breezeworks is the lowest cost alternative. Note the $150 Breezeworks low mount kit uses an additional pulley and a "beefier" alternator holding bracket...this is the stronger application but you need 4 inches of clearance in front of the stator flywheel. I chose this one for several reasons, but mainly because I have power steering and this was the easiest conversion in my circumstance. Otherwise the one-belt lower mount version would have required re-location of other things, like the coil, etc. I was also concerned about one very long belt, with flop and tension becoming a problem. A top mount, even if I could have used it would have required modification of the engine cover.<br /><br />Sorry for the lengthy explanation, but there's a lot more to the conversion than just deciding to do it or don't do it. Select the kit that's best for you, the system works great. My only regret?...not doing it five years ago.
 
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