Is this electric shift switch reliable?

randy2112

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I need a new switch and I don't want to use switches on the dash... So anyone know anything aboutg this one: http://omc-switch.com/

They are brand new (not 36yr.+New old stock)direct replacements.
 
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Howard Sterndrive

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Re: Is this electric shift switch reliable?

the F and R coils in the lower unit, as their name implies, are coils of wire. When you turn off the power to any coil of wire (i.e. electromagnet) , the magnetic field collapses. This collapse induces a large "outrush" of current in the wire. The opening of the switch contacts in concert with this induced high current flow causes an arc or spark at the switch contacts. This is the exact way an ignition coil makes sparks at your spark plugs. But this is undesirable obviously in a shifter.

That spark burns the metal switch contacts and blackens them with carbon. It can melt the metal.

All that said, the root issue here is that OMC never saw fit to use capacitors or diodes or any other such device to suppress this arcing and sparking. Most any modern system with electromagnetism (e.g. your car's Air conditioning compressor clutch) uses a diode to supress the arc at the relay.

The bottom line: No switch is going to survive and be reliable for as long as it should due to OMC's design flaw. I would plan on a 3 to 5 year replacement on a frequently used boat and plan for failure at sea to be possible. (i.e. carry a spare or be ready to short some wires to obtain Forward gear)

The reason the dash mounting of a $35 drum switch from home depot is often suggested, is two fold.
1. It's $35
2. It can be disassembled and contacts cleaned with emery cloth or other abrasive to remove the carbon

Some problems with a "dash mounted" switch:
1. someone can shift at high rpm and destroy the lower unit
2. non standard controls
3. you need to choose a decent switch and field engineer the install
 

randy2112

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Re: Is this electric shift switch reliable?

Thanks for the info about the coils never thought about it that way. OK, A diode is just a one way valve for electricity So why not throw one inline to suppress the feedback from the coil?
This is a 19ft Ski boat used in lakes only so non-standard controls are not something people on my boat need to deal with... I would end up with a ruined drive or a banged up boat.

Thanks for the help.
 

Howard Sterndrive

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Re: Is this electric shift switch reliable?

you absolutely could add that protection. I know some people have on the power window circuits on some Ford cars where the contacts would frequently melt.
However, I think the Shottky diodes required for low V drop, may not handle the current well in the electric shift OMC drive. A relay may be required and then the expense and circuit complexity goes up.
Are there any electrical engineers on this forum? could probably explain better.
Good primer from wiki on the use of diodes for this
Flyback diode - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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randy2112

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Re: Is this electric shift switch reliable?

Hmm... a 40 amp low voltage drop battery isolator is fairly cheap. It would have at least 2 diodes and the heat sinks required to keep it reliable. Maybe a local elictronics shop could modify one for this purpose. But I don't know that this boat is worth it. Then again considering this switch failure destroyed the lower unit...

I don't know... Everyone says these are expensive to work on and the parts are hard to find. But I only have 500.00 into this repair and that counts the 220.00 switch.
For a boat that seems cheap.
If the previous owner hadn't just rebuilt the engine with Hi performance parts and the hull and floor weren't solid...
Repair and sell or improve and keep it... That is the question.
 

randy2112

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Re: Is this electric shift switch reliable?

Hi, It looks like a relay would be the best protection with the least risk of causing problems. This isolates the expensive omc switch and allows you the option to carry a spare relay in case of failure. without the arcing in the omc shifter switch it should last for a very long time.Also I think a relay located on the transom next to the battery and drive would provide the shortest least resistant path for the electric current to the coil.

If you decide to go with a diode you need what is called a flyback or snubber diode. It doesn't affect voltage or resistance. Basicly it shunts the discharge from the coil back to itself. It is used with most inductive loads i.e. dc motors and silinoids...Be careful though installing it backwards will short the circuit. Read this for more info:
http://www.douglaskrantz.com/Flyback_Diode.html

Hope this helps someone...
 
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