J150VXSIG Idle Issues

maza62

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I have a 2001 Johnson 150hp J150VXSIG that I have been dealing with a fuel starvation issue for longer then I care to admit. I will start I have a Seloc manual and wish I could find an OEM Service Manual (I guess that is my first question).

To go into it... the motor was intermittent for a while where sometimes it would idle (or not) and then let me go to WOT and then when I would come back to idle it would die or die when I came back up. Then it progressed to where it would not let me give it any throttle without bogging and dying. If I hand pumped the priming bulb it would work. So being a rookie I started throwing parts at the fuel system without doing a true diagnosis. I started with replacing the VRO to a conventional fuel pump and premixing, this did not fix it. I then replaced all fuel hoses and put hose clamps on all fittings, still same problem. Then I rebuilt all 6 carbs, same problem. So I got half a brain since it must be an air leak and I used clear hoses from priming bulb to fuel inlet and also from the vapor tank/fuel pump to the carb fuel trees. Air bubbles were pouring in from vapor tank to carbs until it would die out on me. So I rebuilt the vapor pump and the vapor tank.

This is fixed my bogging problem. I had it out on the water tonight and was running great from high clutch ahead to WOT. However, the problem I still have is at idle and clutch ahead, it will die out on me every time unless I give it throttle. It also makes starting and leaving the dock a pain with this issue. Could this simply be the carb mixture needle valves need to be backed out more from rebuilding the carbs (I did 5 turns like the seloc told me)? Or my carb floats need proper adjusting? Or do I need to look elsewhere?

Sorry for such a long post just wanted to give the full back story. And want to say I have truely enjoyed making so many of these mistakes and eventually learning how to do this all the right way. It is very satisfying this solve these problems yourself/cost savings.

Thanks for the help.
Alex
 
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Chris1956

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Idle issues can be mixture adjustment or timing. So check the timing first and then adjust the mixtures to get a smooth idle.
 

maza62

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Thanks Chris1956 for the reply. The timing feels intimidating to me when reading about it in the seloc manual. Is it simpler then I think and can I adjust in the driveway or does it need to be in the water? Also, are the carb adjustments pretty ranging between each carb or pretty standard between each one.

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Timing can be done on flusher device. Carbs must be done on water. Since there are six adjustments, you need to have a quiet day and adjust each one and listen for smoothing of running or increase in RPM. Take your time and don't be afraid to start over.
 

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Just ran it in the driveway after I backed the carb adjustment needleS out 7 turns. Seemed to run great. Was idling at about 1400-1500rpms. I am going to try to get it on the water this week to confirm that was the problem.
 

Chris1956

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That idle speed is too fast, as the motor will bang into gear. You might recheck idle timing and back off throttle to slow RPM to 1000 max.
 

maza62

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I have a ignition Analyzer on order right now to do a proper timing and synchronization. Hopefully that will level it out.
 

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So I did the timing and synchronization and got the idle where I want it but I now have a wot problem where I am only getting about 2500rpms. Did I screw up the max spark advance or is it a throttle cable adjustment? It ran wot normal for about 30 sec then dropped off and stayed there the rest of the day. Wot was running great before lync and synchronization, did I just screw that up and need to redo it?
 

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Well, it is best to test the motor's max spark advance. Also set the throttle to wide open and see if the carbs are all the way open.

Oh yes, check for dumb stuff like spark plug wires on wrong cylinder and clogged fuel filters and anti-siphon valves.
 
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