Lake GPS ???

LtJoker66

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Hello all. Will a regular GPS, like a Garmin or something along those lines, work on the lake as well as they do for highways?? Is there a special "Lake GPS"?? I have looked online and seen some that show depth and all this kind of stuff but i'm not concerned with that as I have a depth finder. My concern is not knowing all th emile markers, locations of resorts/resteraunts and how to get back to where my truck/trailer are. I know I coul dsimply just pay attention while on the lake but thought it woul dbe nice to have something while i'm on the water.
 

DirtyOldBoat

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I use an old Garmin Etrex. Boating is about the only thing it is good for. No maps but it records all my tracks and tells my speed. Easy to mark waypoints of where you parked, etc...
 

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The things that you might be missing are the specific navigation features of the lake. You should be able to do basic navigation.

i have a built-in Garmin that came with my 'new-to-me' boat (GPSMAP 536s, I believe) and from what I can tell it is setup for lake navigation. Of course, I'll be using it on the ocean :rolleyes:
 

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You want a GPS chart plotter. They are made specifically for marine use and allow you to install charts from anywhere in the world. There are a few different chart formats and the plotter you buy will accept only one. The first thing you need to do is find out if there's a electronic chart for your lake, then choose the plotter you like based on chart availability and feature.

Another option might be an app for a smart phone or tablet. Some of the more popular lake charts are available that way.

Ted, just change the chip on your plotter and sell the old one on the Winnipesaukee forum. You might get enough to buy 20 minutes worth of fuel...
 

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The things that you might be missing are the specific navigation features of the lake. You should be able to do basic navigation.

i have a built-in Garmin that came with my 'new-to-me' boat (GPSMAP 536s, I believe) and from what I can tell it is setup for lake navigation. Of course, I'll be using it on the ocean :rolleyes:

Like Ted, I have the Garmin, but a 546s, that came with my boat when I got it. They have a map series called "Lakes and Rivers" available, showing the known navigation stuff and depths of lakes and rivers. Some very detailed, some not so much.
 

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Just to add to what others said, all GPS' work the same in that they communicate with multiple satellites all at once in order to determine its own position - on water, on land, in the air, no matter where it is. With that said, some brands do a better job than other at performing this task. For the GPS to relay its own position in a way that you can understand, such as using a display screen with a map vs looking at a bunch of numbers (which is the way they used to be), the GPS nowadays are loaded with basemaps. For your car gps, you have a basemap containing city streets, highways, and other features that would be important to someone on land. For a boat, you want a chartplotter, which is a water resistant GPS with waterway features built in to its maps with things like marinas, channels, depths, etc. The GPS doesn't determine your depth other than knowing where it is on the map and then using the location on the map to tell you what the depth is according to the maker of the map. A car GPS isn't exactly "wrong" for a boat, its just that you will just see your position marked with a picture of a car in most cases in the middle of a blue area, that being the lake or ocean. It still works on the water because it technically knows where it is its just that the car GPS is not loaded with a marine basemap which you'd need to know where the heck you are.

To make you even more confused, many hand held GPS brands, such as the Magellan Sportrak Marine/Pro, come with BOTH maps so you can use it anywhere. Additionally, if you have the pro version for example, you can later purchase the marine map pack and then using a computer, load the marine maps on your GPS. Same thing goes for other brands as well.

Good luck!
 

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I used an E-Trex on my last boat. It was a hand held GPS I got a dash mount for it. No maps but the track line was nice until I learned the lake. What lake will you be using?
 

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I used a reg.. gps for a while although no details as explained it helped to show me where i was on the lake and mark my waypoint (dock) so i new on could get back ok ...I did invest in a portable gps wich came with basic map well c how it does i havent bought any other maps yet as the customer servise says it will do what i want with this map ....
 

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Hello all. Will a regular GPS, like a Garmin or something along those lines, work on the lake as well as they do for highways?? Is there a special "Lake GPS"?? I have looked online and seen some that show depth and all this kind of stuff but i'm not concerned with that as I have a depth finder. My concern is not knowing all th emile markers, locations of resorts/resteraunts and how to get back to where my truck/trailer are. I know I coul dsimply just pay attention while on the lake but thought it woul dbe nice to have something while i'm on the water.


Most new GPS have a built in map of most lakes in the country. My Garmin did and so does my Hummingbird.
 

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I have a Garmin Nuvi 265 that I bought primarily for road use. I can switch mine to "off-road" use and do use it on the lake (as well as in the airplane a little bit - not for NAV). On the lake, I can mark the places I want to get to and even put in waypoints but I don't get NAV data (depth, channel markers, etc.). I wouldn't wanna' do big water this way, but for the typical stuff I do on our lakes and rivers it works.

Garmin does have some lake maps that I think you can download for the Nuvi, but I haven't bought them to try out.
 

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I have an older Garmin c330. It is mainly for road use, but I purchased the map BlueChart g2: HUS039R - US All and installed it via sd card. It now shows me the way to the marina and once in the water, where i am and all other pertinent marine info. I can save a waypoint once i am there but it doesnt show lat&long like a true chartplotter will.
 

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Hello all. Will a regular GPS, like a Garmin or something along those lines, work on the lake as well as they do for highways?

Hello. The "GPS" part of the system is in space, and it knows nothing about nor cares nothing about where you receive its signals. The "G" in "GPS" stands for global; the system works anyplace on the globe.

I have looked online and seen some that show depth and all this kind of stuff but i'm not concerned with that as I have a depth finder.

The Global Positioning System measures altitude, not depth. It can tell your elevation, but not the depth of water below you. The signals from the satellites cannot penetrate water.

My concern is not knowing all the mile markers, locations of resorts [and] resteraunts, and how to get back to where my truck [and] trailer are. I know I could simply just pay attention while on the lake but thought it would be nice to have something while...on the water.

The GPS system will give your location on the water.
 
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The Global Positioning System measures altitude, not depth. If can tell your elevation, but not the depth of water below you. The signals from the satellites cannot penetrate water.
GPS hart plotters display depth in two manners, they can display what the electronic chart thinks the depth is, or they can use a transducer and measure the depth.
 

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I use an old garmin street pilot and my fish finder. I've practice navigating with it in the day time so that I know how to use it at night when I go night fishing. But right now my boat is in dry dock:grumpy:
 

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GPS hart plotters display depth in two manners, they can display what the electronic chart thinks the depth is, or they can use a transducer and measure the depth.

GPS cannot measure depth. You need a SONAR for that. The signals from a GPS satellite cannot penetrate water. A GPS receiver emits no signals.
 

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GPS cannot measure depth ... The signals from a GPS satellite cannot penetrate water.
... so, if you sink you'll have to guess how far down you are :D

The maps that I mentioned from Garmin in my post have the depths listed in them. For the impounds here in TN they note the main channels, NAV buoys and water depth. I don't know if they go farther than that. The signal refresh (forget what it's called when they update) is slower than the more high end units but for general "I can see the shore" use, I would think it's fine.
 

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Check out Navionics and Lake Master inland lake contour chartplotter map 'chips' for your GPS/fish (depth) finder unit. You must select the chip that fits your unit (if your unit had this capability). Details (such as navigational aids, marinas, etc) vary by lake and manufacturer. This will at least get you started with your research.

Todd
 

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I have a Lowrance XOG (discontinued) which is water-resistant and accepts Navionics charts on SD card. While the Navionics chart shows ATONs and some depths, the screen on the unit is pretty small. I believe Garmin makes a similar dual-use unit.
 

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Printing depths on a chart has nothing to do with the Global Positioning System or GPS. The GPS provides no way to measure depth. If you want to measure depth, get a sounding line or a SONAR depth finder. The GPS just provides a way for you to deduce your position. It is really a great system for locating your position, but it is of no value at all in determining the depth of water under your boat. To do that, you will need a SONAR echo-sounder.
 

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Printing depths on a chart has nothing to do with the Global Positioning System or GPS. The GPS provides no way to measure depth. If you want to measure depth, get a sounding line or a SONAR depth finder. The GPS just provides a way for you to deduce your position. It is really a great system for locating your position, but it is of no value at all in determining the depth of water under your boat. To do that, you will need a SONAR echo-sounder.

Understood. Most (probably all the current stuff) GPS chart plotters have the capability of measuring depth using SONAR. Many can also display weather RADAR data, AIS data, and onboard RADAR data. They can also display engine data, video camera output, and any other NMEA2000 data.

Simrad-NSE12.jpg

Note the depth data on the chart to the left and the depth data on the SONAR display in the lower right. That lower right depth data is measured, not inferred.

I can connect a transducer to my ancient Standard Horizon chart plotter and measure/display depth quite easily, while also finding/dipslaying fish.
 
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