"Low Rider" Bass type boats on big lakes? (Lake Powell)

Karasu

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In a bit of a quandary. Spend a summer on Lake Powell with a friend with a 22' Sea Ray many moons ago but still consider myself a rusty semi novice at this point. Shopping for my own boat. Given $ limits and personal preferences I'm looking for a 16-18' used welded aluminum deep V with a 40-70ish HP 4stroke outboard, ideally in the $5-7k range. If I had a $20+k budget this would be no issue, but in the Arizona area used market such things seem nonexistent.

Quandary: what I'm finding are either older boats from good reputation makers that fit that description but with 2-strokes, often old 2-strokes, OR less old boats that are low rider bass boats, but have nice 4 stroke engines. Local options here in Flagstaff are Lake Mary (some of you would deem it a long pond no doubt ;-) or (the opposite extreme) Lake Powell. (Note that depending on who you listen to or who is interpreting the regs, Lake Powell either does or does not have restrictions on older 2 stroke outboards. I'd much prefer to avoid them anyway just for environmental responsibility reasons.)

I would like my "new" boat to be able to be usable on both. One of the things I recall from my time on Powell was that the water could get "interesting" even for the 22' Sea Ray. I'm guessing it would get a bit more extreme than "interesting" in one of those bass boats that seem to have maybe a foot of rise from the water level. I don't mind getting wet once in a while, but also don't want too much drama in my old age ;-)

Does anyone have opinions or experience with low boats in rough water? Brands/models that are preferable or to avoid? Am I just being paranoid or what? Thanks!
 

Scott Danforth

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welcome aboard.

many of the narrow passages sink small boats as the chop bounces off the walls and you get a doppler effect. not sure I would be running a bass boat on that lake.

nothing wrong with a 2-stroke. I personally prefer them

Wahweap Marina in Page AZ probably scraps about 30 20ish foot boats a year.
 

ahicks

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I am not a fan of the low profile bass boats. I would suggest you keep looking - and maybe expand the area you're looking in?

After a lifetime of 2 strokes, 4 strokes have me totally spoiled.

BIL just bought a nice 17' Lund w/70hp Yamaha 4 stroke for 6500. He's in Michigan's northern lower.
 

Scott Danforth

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Watch the classifieds in about a month or two when boats start being pulled from the lake
 

Old Ironmaker

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I understand your environmental concern with a 2 stroke of which I don't share. The added weight of the 4 stroke which equates to more fossil fuel burnt may offset the cleaner burn of a 4 stroke, not a scientific observation that can be proven by me but I have read that, here perhaps.

Why are you listing a welded hull as criteria for an aluminum? I don't know Lake Powel, can't point it out on a map. We boat the Great Lakes and wide open deep lakes in Ontario. Unless you see a Pro Fisherperson you will never see a real deal Bass Boat. A Ranger or Stratos Walleye rig yes but never a Bass Boat. I've been boating/fishing big water here in Ontario, NY, PA, Ohio and Michigan for over 40 years. As far as boating in a shallow Jon type boat I do have some experience. I could have drowned because a gust of wind on a very tiny 400 acre Upper NY State lake. It flipped upside down, never, ever again.

Keep shopping.
 

Redrig

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2 strokes are fine on powell (just not in jetskis) boats perfectly legal

i go to Powell frequently and you will see many low bass boats there, they also make the news frequently getting swamped by winds or the wakes from the tour boats.

And to clarify I am not picking on bass boats . Dang near any boat can have a bad day down there. Just over the memorial weekend a 40 something foot houseboat almost sunk from a tour boat wake .

I think the trick is , that if there is remotely any bad weather or windy and you are in a smaller vessel either dont launch or stick to the side canyons . Thats what I do , but then again I am only in an 18 footer so my idea of rough water would probably make some folks on this board laugh
 
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Scott Danforth

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the narrow channels of lake powell sink boats every weekend. the doppler effect of the waves bouncing off canyon walls means that you go from dead calm to 8' peaks and valleys from a passing houseboat or one of the bigger yachts.

lake powell is also where it can be a calm day, then the wind picks up and you have 80mph winds.
 

Old Ironmaker

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I saw a few You Tube videos from Lake Powel. That is one busy lake. The clips I watched were Party Central. I would bet there are more boats on that lake than all the pleasure craft within 60 miles of us here on the Canuck side of Lake Erie.
 

82rude

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I saw a few You Tube videos from Lake Powel. That is one busy lake. The clips I watched were Party Central. I would bet there are more boats on that lake than all the pleasure craft within 60 miles of us here on the Canuck side of Lake Erie.

Same here .I boat on a lake that makes most lakes down right small (superior) Last year biggest wave was 28 plus by Superior Wisconsin.As for 2 stroke not being environmentally responsible,balderdash!My etec is quite ,fuel eff,and actually better than most 4 strokes for emissions.Other than maybe a tourist ive never seen a bass boat being used around here.
 
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