Mariner 150

jpayeur01

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Hello I have a 1980 Mariner 150 and would like to get a little more power out of it, Does anybody know what I need to do to convert this to a 175HP? I know the displacement, bore and stroke are all the same between the 2 so I assume the differences are all in the carbs? is it possible to re-jet the carbs that are on there to get more power? Thanks for any help.
 

1nebel0

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Re: Mariner 150

Rejetting the carbs will work but the single most important thing you can do is to raise the compression...changing to good fibre reeds will give you better mid range and idle quality.....
 

jpayeur01

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Re: Mariner 150

Compression is 122-124 on all 6 cylinders. Are Reeds easy to replace on that Motor? I know on the earlier inline 6 it was a lot of work...
 

CharlieB

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Re: Mariner 150

Reeds can make some improvement but not 25 HP. That will require significant increase in airflow and fuel both in and out of the engine.

A change of carbs, larger diameter throats and larger jetting are used to get any serious power increase, the exhaust tuner may need attention in order to flow the increase exhaust.

I don't remember any stacked 6 over 150 from the factory, larger carbs could be hard to find. Your carbs could be rebuilt, bored out, new butterflies installed, then you would have to start drilling out jets taking care not to run too lean and burn down the motor in your attempt to get more power.

A more current V6 may be a safer method to HP as the factory has already done the work.
 

jpayeur01

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Re: Mariner 150

It is a V6. If I am not mistaken they started making the 150 a V6 in 1978. but regardless mine is a V6.
 

j_martin

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Re: Mariner 150

The best way to get more horsepower is to trade it in. Understand that a 2 cycle engine has to balance a lot of things to get a decent operating range. Any one thing you do will cause something else to be less desirable, effective, etc.

For example:
bigger barrel carbs might give you a bit more on the top end, at the expense of idle quality.

Exhaust tuner, might pull the peak rpm up a bit, at the cost of idle and mid range performance.

You could cut the heads and increase compression to about 150. It'll gain you a bit more torque over the range, and of course a few more horses, at the cost of premium fuel.

Reeds usually have little to do with top end, but a set if Chris Carson fiberglass reeds does wonders for low speed performance, without costing anything at the top. The reeds all mount on a plate right behind the carbs on the V6 making them very accessible.

Carb jet sizes go with the carb model. Simply changing jets doesn't automatically give you more power. If you're peak tuning for racing, and don't mind changing jets if the weather changes by 20 degrees, you can lean up the carbs a bit for more peak performance, at the risk of a minor timing error costing you a piston or ventilating your block. (throwing a rod)

For me, mine's jetted factory fat, timed factory conservative, Glass reeds, fast enough and reliable. Improvements I've made are for reliability and utility. I discarded the "advance" module, and converted electrics to dual regulator 40 amp.
 

jpayeur01

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Re: Mariner 150

I understand that overtuning has consequences on reliability. I was more curious what Mercury did to this motor to get 175HP from it. Based on the info I have found it is the same powerhead as the 175 of the same year, if I can make those same changes is it reasonable to expect that i could in effect convert my 150 to a 175? and myabe that just does not make sense...thanks for everybody's input.
 

j_martin

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Re: Mariner 150

Displacement is the same. Porting is different. Possibly also reeds (front half) different)

Your peak power point RPM is limited by the porting and reeds.

You can hand port to different specs, shave heads to higher power, change carbs, etc, but with a vert front engine you can only get so much fuel/air mixture through the reeds.
 

Faztbullet

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Re: Mariner 150

The 1980 model engines the only differences are the: Reed stop opening, carbs as emulsion tubes are different as there are no such thing as bigger bore carbs,this motor has the "hemi" style heads and just need about a .060 cut, timing, and sometimes exhaust plate.....
 
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