Merc 470

ricovw

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A friend of mine was asking me if it was possible to remove the heat exchanger and plumb the motor for raw water cooling? I guess he has a problem with a leak.
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ricovw

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Re: Merc 470

Thank you.

I am curious as to why not though?
 

Bondo

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Re: Merc 470

Ayuh,... Because that motor needs it to be anything remotely Reliable...
 

Don S

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Re: Merc 470

Aluminum block, along with the cam seal and front of the cam would be in raw water instead of antifreeze. You would have rust and leaks in no time.
The leaks would be water in the oil, not external leaks.
 

Don S

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Re: Merc 470

Just noticed you are from Victoria, if that boat was to be used in salt water, the life expectancy would be measured in days, as counted on one hand.
 

Jmunk

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Re: Merc 470

Your friend must not know that oil and water mix about as well as oil and antifreeze.
 

ricovw

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Re: Merc 470

Thanks for the good information guys. I wasnt sure why that motor needed the heat exchanger.

Jmunk
The question was why can't you run the motor without a heat exchanger. Not what mixes and what doesn't with water.
 

guyaverage

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Re: Merc 470

The 470 has a cast iron Ford 460 head bolted to an aluminum alloy block. Dissimilar metals, in the presence of fresh water (serving as an electrolyte), will cause galvanic corrosion. Change "fresh water" to "salt water" and the rate of corrosion will skyrocket. The aluminum engine block will quickly start to corrode; if its a later ('85-newer) style aluminum exhaust manifold, it will corrode; the aluminum water pump impeller will corrode; and due to the design of the water pump, the front nose of the camshaft will also be ruined. Once that happens, water will go past the front water pump seal and start dripping out the weep hole, and it will also go past the rear (oil) water pump seal and into the crankcase. It only gets exponentially worse from there.

In fresh water, he might would probably get away with it for a while, until the camshaft nose corrodes to the point that the water pump seals couldnt function. In salt water... the earlier mentioned 'days' estimate is likely pretty accurate. Unless you are out on the high seas off the coast of Somalia being chased by heavily-armed pirates, I wouldnt do it.

So what exactly is leaking? If its the heat exchanger, and decent radiator shop will be able to repair it, and if not, replacements pop up all the time on ebay or craigslist.
 
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