mercruiser run poorly when warm

toddw

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I have a 1981 mercruiser 470, runs like a top for 20 mins.at 3400rpms. then it starts to miss and backfire. It does this at all rpms and will stall when idling. Temp remains at 150. Ignition system is brand new. No water in the gas and the filter is clean. Next day same thing; great for 20 mins then trouble. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks
 

Trent

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Re: mercruiser run poorly when warm

You check the choke? Is it open all the way after it is warm? You also need to check the voltage at the (-) side of the coil while running. It needs to be at least 9.5 volts.
 

elpaso

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Re: mercruiser run poorly when warm

New ignition system ?<br />What do you have or changed ?<br />Points - electronic - resistor - coil ?<br />Every detail needed.
 

merc200

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Re: mercruiser run poorly when warm

Todd-Is your coil new? Sure sounds like a coil problem to me. The choke would have been off way before 20 min of running.
 

OTOOLBOX

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Re: mercruiser run poorly when warm

I HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM. I HAVE A 1988 3.7 165HP 4CYL MERCRUISER THAT DOESN'T SEEM TO IDLE VERY WELL AND WHEN YOU PUT IT IN THE WATER IT RUNS GREAT FOR ABOUT 1/2 HOUR AND THEN STARTS TO SPUTTER AND LOSE POWER UNTIL IT FINALLY CUTS OFF. IF I LET IT SIT FOR A WHILE IT WILL RUN GOOD FOR A LITTLE WHILE AND THEN START TO LOSE POWER AGAIN. IT DID LOOK LIKE I HAD A LITTLE GAS IN WITH THE WATER WHEN I PULLED MY PLUG OUT. ANY ADVICE? AND TODD, I KNOW WHAT YOU ARE GOING THROUGH--VERY FRUSTRATING. BOAT RUNS GREAT IN THE DRIVEWAY.
 

boatguy19

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Re: mercruiser run poorly when warm

sounds like your coil is going bad, i think thats the first thing i would try
 

toddw

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Re: mercruiser run poorly when warm

Thanks for the advice. Over the past 6 months I have replaced the coil,distributor and cap, points, condenser,rotor, high tension wires,and plugs. Could a faulty voltage regulator be over charging and therefore causing the problem after 20 mins
 

merc200

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Re: mercruiser run poorly when warm

Todd- Try another coil just for kicks....... mechanics test coils by placing them in an oven for a short period of time. They then take them out and test them when they are warm..... If a coil is bad, they can tell when it is warm..... however, when it cools off, it will work just fine..... Don't ask me the particulars because that is all I know.
 

Boatist

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Re: mercruiser run poorly when warm

ToddW<br />You have replaced most of your ignition system so if the symptoms have not changed I think unlikely to be ignition problem. Still do not see a couple of things in the posts. <br />1: Have you checked the voltage to the + side of the coil when you have the problem. It should be 9 or 10 volts. If it is lower you could have a bad or cracked balast resistor or bad resistance wire.<br />2: How did you set your points, should be .018 or .019 gap on top of the lobe. Dwell angle should be 31 to 34 degrees. Check it when you have the problem.<br />3: Make sure you have changed the coil to distributor high tension lead.<br />4: Check your ingition timing when it runing good an again when it fails.<br />5: Make sure have a ground wire to the points plate.<br /> <br />Fuel problems<br />1: I would start smiple, when failing remove your gas tank fill cap. If it takes off you have a blocked fuel tank vent line.<br />2: Hook up a fuel pressure guage and check it when it is failing, should have 3.5 to 6 psi of fuel pressure. Be carefull, no fuel leaks.<br />3: Carburetor float mighting be sticking not letting in enough fuel or not shuting off the fuel letting the bowl over flow.<br /><br />Valves<br />Make sure valves have been adjusted when hot. Get every thing ready and when it is failing do a quick compression check on all cylinders. A stuck lifter or valve too tight and valve can stay open when hot.<br /><br />If you have the tools hook up your dwell meter to the - side of the coil, a volt meter to the + side of the coil. Hook up a timing light and check timing when it is working good and again when it failing. Hook to the coil high tention line and see if have any missing sparks or check wire to each cylinder for missing pulses. Hook up fuel pressure guage and check pressure when it is failing. One of these things should lead you to your problem.<br /><br />All engine needs to run is comperssion 130 psi, Fuel air mix, and a proper timed spark.
 

toddw

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Re: mercruiser run poorly when warm

Thanks for all your help and advise. What a great site and a great bunch of people!!!! I will try your remedies. Todd
 
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