Mercury V6 trigger magnet locations in flywheel hub ?

kls2020

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I don't know why but after having a power loss from my motor and suspecting an ignition problem as the culprit I came across the Mercury V6 ignition wiring diagram I became kind of obsessed with figuring out how the system worked .
Looking at the trigger winding arrangement with 120 degree displacement between windings I was really baffled on just how they were achieving trigger signals (gate pulse signals )to the switchbox SCR's at the required 60 degree interval to fire the spark plug coils . I read a post on another forum claiming the trigger wire connections between both switch boxes made a "Delta" winding configuration . After mulling that over for awhile I dismissed that being the answer due to the blocking diodes in the switchboxes . Next I contemplated the possibility of electronic timing networks being built into the switchboxes to sync all the firing pulses (that would work but be more complicated ).
The conclusion I came to was that the two trigger magnets must be mounted in the flywheel hub with a displacement of 60 degrees with the "North " pole leading the "South " pole by this amount . With a firing order of 1-4-5-2-3-6 as the flywheel rotates the "N" pole magnet crosses the #1 trigger winding producing a (Positive )voltage pulse to the switchbox firing cylider #1 .
60 degrees later the "S" pole magnet crosses the #1 trigger winding producing a (positive ) voltage pulse to the switch
box fiirng cylinder #4 . This would be repeated with the remaing two trigger windings firing all cylinders in order .
This would be the simplest way to make the system work . I did not want to know bad enough to remove my flywheel to verify the trigger magnet locations . Can anyone confirm if this is where the trigger magnets are situated in the hub?

PS : after investing all of this time in the ignition system I found the source of the problem was a bad fuel injector (open coil)
 

Chris1956

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Re: Mercury V6 trigger magnet locations in flywheel hub ?

Normally 60* V6 motors have a 1-2-3-4-5-6 firing order. They have three triggers and two switchboxes. They also have seperate high and low speed windings. Have you read the troubleshooting procedure on the CDIElectronics web site?
 

kls2020

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Re: Mercury V6 trigger magnet locations in flywheel hub ?

Yes I have read the CDI Electronics trouble shooting guide and my motor's stator and switchboxes have passed all the electrical tests . My question was not about if it works but how it works . I had read on another site that a Merc V6 OB
had a firing order of 1-4-5-2-3-6 ?
If the actual firing order is 1-2-3-4-5-6 then a traditional 180 degree displacement between the north and south poles of the trigger magnets works .

subtracting for timing advance

"N" pole trigger magnet crosses #1 trigger winding @ 0 deg firing #1 cyl . (pulsing injectors 3&4)
"S" pole trigger magnet crosses #3 trigger winding @ 60 deg firing #2 cyl
"N" pole trigger magnet crosses #2 trigger winding @ 120 deg firing #3 cyl (pulsing injectors 5&6 )
"S" pole trigger magnet crosses #1 trigger winding @ 180 deg firing #4 cyl
"N" pole trigger magnet crosses #3 trigger winding @ 240 deg firing #5 cyl (pulsing injectors 1&2 )
"S' pole trigger magnet crosses #2 trigger winding @ 300 deg firing #6 cyl

Can anyone confirm if this is correct?
 

Faztbullet

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Re: Mercury V6 trigger magnet locations in flywheel hub ?

In a basic ADI ignition they use (1) pulsar coil to fire (2) cylinders. To fire (2) cylinders off the same coil is accomplished by using the direction of current flow, this is also refered to as "phase" and is determined by which end of magnet N or S passes coil first. The switchbox internal circuits see this voltage as a + or - and the SCR only fires on a + voltage. All 3 cylinder and V-6 motors are 120? seperated...

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