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tengals123

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Thanks heaps again guys. A few more quick ones from the pro's. How hard is it to change a windsheild design, i want to completly change my design and style. Secondly, when it comes time to fill all those small holes, gouges etc, what product is the best to use prior to painting. Thirdly, Im going to install all new instuments into my helm, do i cut the holes before painting or after? Lastly how do i get a pic of my boat up here so you can see what im working with. cheers
 

petrolhead

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How hard is it to change a windsheild design,
Difficult question, how skilled are you? Easy if you are, hard if you're not, post some sketches of what you have in mind and get some advice.<br /><br />
Secondly, when it comes time to fill all those small holes, gouges etc, what product is the best to use prior to painting.
Epoxy filler is my favourite, either a ready mixed one or buy resin and filler and make your own.<br /><br />
Im going to install all new instuments into my helm, do i cut the holes before painting or after?
Before, why risk ruining your new paint job?<br /><br />
Lastly how do i get a pic of my boat up here so you can see what im working with.
First you need to post your photos somewhere on the web so they have a URL you can link to, either on your own website or a free photo hosting site, I use Village Photos. Then using the full reply form below click on "Image" and enter the URL of your photo, and that's it.
 

tengals123

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your a legend, thanks mate and i'll answer those questions once i've posted my pics. cheers
 

Tinkerer

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tengals<br /><br />I'm not sure if you're still having trouble getting your pix into your post.<br /><br />Just to expand on what petrolhead said in his last para, if you're trying to put a pic into the body of your post, and assuming you've got it hosted somewhere (not just stored on your computer because then it will show on your view of the thread but nobody else's), you need to click the "Post a Reply" button below the "Quick Reply" message box that is already open at the bottom of a thread. The Post a Reply box has an Image button to the right of the Instant Graemlins under Instant UBB Code. Click the Image button when you have the cursor where you want the pic to go. It puts up a dialog box for you to put the host URL (link) in and then you click OK and it's done.
 

petrolhead

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Well that's almost right! I find I can't zoom and enlarge the photo though.<br /><br />If you use the "Image" button below rather than the "URL" button, you can post the actual photo in your message rather than just a link to it.
 

tengals123

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here<br /><br />
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tengals123

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i tried but not working, if you follow the link, i think just click on the image to enlarge it.<br />ok, petrolhead, am i handy, yes i am, not sure about fiberglassing though, should be ok with it. How hard is that epoxy to sand back?
 

petrolhead

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Just a thought about why you're having problems attaching your photo. When the window appears for you to enter the photo URL it already has the "http://" bit, you need to delete that before pasting in the URL as the URL already contains that part, otherwise you get it twice and it won't work.<br />Sanding epoxy filler? I mix my own from resin and WEST filleting compound (colloidal silica and microballoons), it sands very easily as it's mostly microballoons, more silica would make it harder to sand and stronger. You can make your own by adding sawdust to resin but I find that quite hard to sand.
 

Mark42

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Oh oh. Looks like another nice boat is going to get painted and modified...... :eek: <br /><br />Calling Tinkerer, Realgun, Jamminmaz, Jimmthekid and others to talk some sense into this guy! :D :D :D <br /><br />And what is wrong with an orange boat? ;) <br /><br />But seriously, that is a really nice looking boat. It looks to be in great shape. Even has a deck hatch and looks to have all the original hardware in good condition. The windshield design looks really easy to repair/replace if it gets scratched or damaged. And the trailer looks good too. <br /><br />Why change it? I have to admit I am not a big fan of painting gel coat just because the color doesn't suit you. You can, of course. But it seems to me that trying to prevent scratches/paint damage is more work than keeping the original finish shiny. And a paint job that starts to chip and peel over time will look really bad compared to the original finish it has now. <br /><br />Just my 2¢.<br /><br />Mark
 

gewf631

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And the lines of that windshield match the lines of the boat - you change the windshield and you loose that nice transistion.<br /><br />If you're just looking to change the material (to get rid of that smoked-glass), this shouldn't be too difficult.
 

Tinkerer

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tengals<br /><br />Am I missing something?<br /><br />Do I have the wrong picture?<br /><br />Are you seriously considering painting boat KR 237, currently a white hull with orange topsides?<br /><br />If so, mate, with the greatest respect, you are off your *u&k#@* rocker.<br /><br />Painting is for boats that have finishes near death. Yours is barely out of the womb.<br /><br />There will be a lot of work in just removing everything from the topdeck and hull (Yeah, I know, you think it won't but look at your boat really carefully and work out how, for example, you'll get the rubrail off and back on again and how you'll reconnect all the electrical wires etc). That's about 5% of what you'll spend prepping it for paint. The end result might be 1 to 5% better than you currently have, until you hit a dock or some clown bangs you at a ramp.<br /><br />I haven't painted a fibreglass boat. I've done a timber boat. I've done a lot of furniture restoration which is harder than fibreglass because the surface moves a lot more with temperature and humidity changes and is much more porous. I've done bits of cars as an amateur, with professional results. <br /><br />To get a really good finish on a boat or anything else is way more work than any sensible person wants to do. If it's been polished you won't believe how hard it is to get rid of the silicone. When little fisheyes keep coming up after endless scrubs and cleans and preps because the silicone is still there you'll start banging your head on the boat, but it's not it's fault.<br /><br />If my boat looked half as good as your trailer I'd just wash it, be happy, and sit there admiring it with a beer in my hand.<br /><br />Photos often conceal detail but the only things I can see that might need work are the studs on the windscreen frame, which you can leave alone if you have the canopy, and a bit of darkening at the bow where it hits the trailer roller which can easily be sanded out. Possibly even removed with auto tar and spot remover and if that doesn't work try auto cutter before you hit it with sandpaper.<br /><br />Here I was thinking you had a problem boat.<br /><br />But if you want to move up to something better, more in the classic line that needs a lot of work to get it to about a third of what your current boat is and would look really good in different paint with a different windscreen, just let me know and I'm happy to swap. I'll even deliver my boat to you.<br /><br />Mate, that smoked windscreen is brilliant. Leave it alone.
 

petrolhead

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Is everyone else able to see this photo OK? When I click on the link I just see the little thumbnail, when I click on that to enlarge it all I get is the dreaded red X and no picture!<br />You guys must be seeing the big picture because I can't make out any of the details you're talking about, must admit it looks nice in the thumbnail though, and I don't even like plastic boats!
 

Jimmie.jazz

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Wow, what a nice boat! Really like that hatch, I bet it is handy. Buddy of mine had a 2-foot round hatch set flush in the teak deck of his 40-foot ketch. We could load that boat for a weekend trip in 10 minutes. I'd leave your boat alone, man! It looks great!
 

tengals123

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ok ok, but a few things.<br /><br />1 The picture is doing this boat a HUGE justice.<br />2. The paint is extremely faded, even after colour restorer and polish.<br />3. There are parts in this boat that need changing, I want a lounge seat in the back, new instruments, new carpet, new seats and the list goes on and on. I guess I have a vision for this boat, I love the shape, I just want it to look and feel they way I can imagine. cheers
 

Tinkerer

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Originally posted by tengals123:<br /> ok ok, but a few things.<br /><br />1 The picture is doing this boat a HUGE justice.<br />2. The paint is extremely faded, even after colour restorer and polish.<br />3. There are parts in this boat that need changing, I want a lounge seat in the back, new instruments, new carpet, new seats and the list goes on and on. I guess I have a vision for this boat, I love the shape, I just want it to look and feel they way I can imagine. cheers <br />
Fair enough.<br /><br />Go for it.<br /><br />We'll help.
 

Realgun

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Ok time for me to chime in. :) <br /> <br />I like the looks of the boat but Tengals123 is correct the Windshield has to go or be changed fixed whatever.<br /><br />I see a faded boat. Needs to be sanded with 400 then 600wet 1000 wet 2000 wet polished and waxed!<br />And no way am I volunteering for that!<br /><br />New carpet and seats are easy. Do you have a solid floor, stringers and transom to begin with?<br /><br />Instruments are easy too just buy them they install themselfs :D <br /><br />Ask us any questions you have and we will help better yet see if we have asked :D <br />Do a SEARCH! <br /><br />And Please keep us up to date.
 

Darrendude

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tengals123<br /> I just did a windshield mod on my fixer boat. You can see in my pics , origanally the windshiel was 20 inches tall at nearly a 90 degree angle (very dorky looking) I drilled out the rivets in the alum. frame, removed all the glass, cut down all the frames with a saws-all(I cut them down 8 inches) , went to homedepot and got 1/4 acrilyc plexi glass, cut the plexi to size with a skill saw and riveted back together, used black silicon caulk to hold in place . Also I increased the rake, swept it back to around 65 degree angle. now i think it is more sporty. I was going to leave it with no windshield , but its winter and a shield is wonderful.<br /><br />good luck
 

jimmythekid

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nice boat, I wouldn't paint it, you can get old gel coat to shine like new, theres actually a product out there, i forget the name, its a 3 step process and requires a buffer. But it makes it look new again. I do some digging and see if I can find out what it was again. Is that a merc 1150 on the back of that?
 
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