need help removing gimball ring

[bolo789]

hey guys iam back for more help, i just found out my merc gimbal ring is busted right through, i got a nice used one with the bell and everything intact, so far i remove the bell the part that bolt up the drive, i also took out the bottom swivel pin, i caunt get out the top swivel pin to get thr gimball ring out. is there a special tool for that?? i also drill the two holes in the upper housing to gain aacces to the top bolts, after drilling the holes i can get to the two side nut/bolt, but i caunt seems to get to the big nut that bolt the stering rod to the ring, do i have to pull the engine to unbolt the big top nut?? last is there a special tool to remove the top swivel from the ring??? thanks you guys has been great helping the trying man.<br /><br />bolo any in put will be great wazz up don s i know you have some tips for me. lolo.

 

[bolo789]

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1989 merc 5.7l 260 horse alpha gen one drive

 

[bolo789]

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ohoh dont tell me i have to lift the engine again??

 

[Kiekhaeferscurse]

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Hi Bolo, Dont know if this helps, but when I do that job externally (engine in) I just use a cold chisel to tap the large nut off, when you purchase the plug kit from Merc it comes with a notched nut to make reinstalling easier.<br />P.S. dont loose those shims under the ring and your going have to set your gimbal ring hieght again.

 

[Don S]

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No tips till I know what drive you have..........

 

[bolo789]

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ok kiek i will try the chisel trick, so once the nut come loose how do i get the uppur swivel to pop out?? so far it seems as if the swizel is frozen to the ring is there a specal tool to pry it out?

 

[Bondo]

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i got a nice used one with the bell and everything intact,

Have you considered Changing out the Complete Units, Instead of the 1 part of yours that is Broken ??????????<br />Changing a Complete Trasom Shield isn't all that hard, as long as you have means to lift the motor..............

 

[bolo789]

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ah ah, well bondo i have means to lift the engine we still have that big peice of plank and the comalong at hand. just pull and reinstall my friend 350 , with no problem. but i was told i could drill them two holes and all will be good, my only problem is geting that top bolt that hold the gimball ring to the housing down how do i get it down, if there is no dice i will pull the enging.<br />thanks bolo

 

[bolo789]

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oh bondo, i just read you said you have one for sale, well the one i am getting the ring from is a complete unit just dont want to pull the engine. <br />thanks anyway, good to know we can get stuff when we need it on this forum.

 

[Don S]

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Before you forget about Bondo's offer, you might want to look at the manual first. And don't forget you will have 2, 1-1/4" holes in your transom shield that will have to be tapped and a plastic plug that may or may not leak put in.<br />Personally I have only had about a 50% success rate when doing them that way, I now just pull the engine. Got tired of doing every thing twice.<br />Here's some reading you might enjoy.<br /><br /> Section 4B Service Procedures Requiring Major Dissassembly.

 

[Bondo]

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oh bondo, i just read you said you have one for sale,

Nope...... That's an Old Post....<br /><br />I'm like Don....<br />Been There...... Done That.....<br />I Personally find it Easier to just bite the bullet,+ Pop the Motor.......<br /><br />It's Your Call....<br />I'm Not trying to sell you parts.....<br />You've stated you already have them.....

 

[rodbolt]

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hello<br /> yep I am with Don and bondo. pee on that chintzy hole saw and plug kit. it usually leaks. there is not a good way to tighten the nut and most times by the time its that worn out there is other issues as well.<br />and if you miss the hole with that paper template you have two big usless holes in the transom shield. <br /> good luck and keep posting

 

[Kiekhaeferscurse]

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Hi Bolo<br />Wouldnt argue with these guys about pulling the engine, but when you live in Mercruisers wonderfull flat rate world there is not a hope in heck that you would get the job done in the alotted amount of time.<br />Tiller arm loose, adjusting nut all the way up, remove horizontal pin retaining bolt & nut (thats the Bolt assy that goes horizontally thru gimbal ring, take that cold chisel and spread gimbal ring apart (just a wee bit), if the pin doesnt drop out & hit you in the toe jump in the boat & give it a tweek with your pry bar, failing that theres a hole in the bottom of Pinwhere you can attach anything you want to give you a a whack at it. (weld in a bolt) Tap in your small slide hammer etc etc.<br />When you have it all removed R&R that little quad seal ( or it will leak at tiller arm in the boat) Inspect pin if its pitted at all on seal surface toss it (or it will leak),<br />Last but but most improtant when re-installing new ring be sure you set ring hieght thats the main function of that large nut your trying to remove.<br />A little teflon tape on those plugs will prevent leaking. Best of luck.

 

[bolo789]

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thanks much, i pull the engine today, i took off all the hpusing with the gimball ring. now i will try the trick kiekhaefersurse said, and hope it work. as i said i did have an extra assembly, i just notice the part the bellows booth goes to the edge break off, and the stering arm is diffrent from the one i have on the boat so i realy have to switch the ring over

 

[bolo789]

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wish i had a complete housing to just bolt back on

 

[bolo789]

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hello everybody, i got the ring off,<br /><br />this is what i do, been as how one side of the ring was broken i use my hacksaw and cut the other side right thruogh. release the top nut bang a littlt down on the ring it fell right in my lap.<br /><br />now for the other bell that i need the ring from, only the ring on it is good the rest is junk, so i cut a v shape above the top nut and bang it out with a hammer the swivel was right there looking at me just bang the top and the swivel fell right in my lap, ok that part over.<br /><br />now those little washer spacer i for the top swivel i fogot where to place tmem,<br /><br />oh boy maybe i will take it to the mechanic,, or this forum might know how, lol<br /><br />thanks every one i now need info on instalition the housing to the transom gasket and stuff ect silocone or no silocone.<br />thanks much

 

[Don S]

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If you go to that link I provided earlier to section 4B, it will tell you where to put the spacer washers and how measure the clearance.<br /><br />Yes, you need a new gasket for the transom shield to transom connection. DO NOT US SILICONE. You will need to glue the new rubber seal into the transom shield and cut it to the proper length. Believe it or not that seal has a round cross section when new.

 

[bolo789]

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thanks don s, my puter is so slow it was taking for ever to load, i will try again. what kind of glue to use will the marine store guys know i will rather listen to you guys, than those marinea guys, they dont like when we try to do things ourself, so whatever you gusy told me i will do, <br /><br />thanks again.

 

[Don S]

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Contact cement will work, I use Merc's bellows adhesive because I use it all the time at work and it's handy. All you need is something to hold it in the groove till you get the transom shield on the boat, then there's no place it can go.

 

[bolo789]

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sorry about the bad tipine, lol