new boat advice

2.5liters

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Hi, I'm looking into buying a new (to me) boat and wanted to get some advice. I'm considering a 17-19ft fish and ski.

What is better? A good brand outboard (which would be...) or an I/O?
Specifically reliability and power.

Pro's and cons of 2stroke vs 4stroke?

What's the difference between a Mercury 4.3 and a Volvo 4.3? same basic motor right?

Thanks!
 

convergent

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Re: new boat advice

The "fish and ski" name can mean different things to different people. The bowrider companies put trolling motors on their bowriders, allow you to put fishing seats on the front and rear, and possibly add a live well. The bass boat makers modify their bass boat hulls by expanding the seating area and adding more seating capacity and swim ladder. Then there are center consoles that are just center consoles and many think they are a good fish and ski boat. They all have strengths and weaknesses and you need to really decide what you want to do with the boat, and what's more important. If fishing is more important, then an outboard fish and ski from one of the bass boat makers is going to be better... where as if you are doing occasional fishing and mostly cruising and skiing, then the bowriders may be better.

I was looking for an outboard fish and ski with the bass boat type hull. I a '93 17' at the beginning of the summer after looking for quite a while and was very happy with it. It did a good job fishing and could get into very shallow water, and it also served us well for skiing, tubing, and wakeboarding. But, I came to realize that with 4 teen+ kids in the family, this boat was a little small for us, and I continued to look for a larger one. I eventually found the 20' ProCraft that I have now and we love it. It does everything a little better than the 17' did (a little more power for water sports - 115hp vs. 200hp; a little larger fishing platforms; a bit more storage space, a bit more seating space, etc.).

The thing is that there seem to be very few of the 19-20 fish and ski boats for sale on the used market that aren't nearly new and over the budget I had planned. I looked for about a year before I found this one... '95 and garage kept so really good condition. There seemed to be about 15 to 20 of the 17' fish and skis, for every one of the 19-20'. If you are opening it up to a bowrider, then that may give you more in that market, but I was only looking for the bass boat style with an outboard.

As for outboard vs. inboard... there are many threads on that here. For fishing, I like the outboard better because you can completely raise it out of the water and the boat can then go into about a foot and a half of water without a problem. If you are fishing out in deeper water, then not an issue... but if you are going into the shallows, then it is. Outboards are also easier to get to and work on, and since the motor is completely out of the boat, you also get more space in the boat for the same hull length. On the downside, they can be louder and if you have a 2 stroke then there is oil to consume and a little more smoke at times. Other than that, they are going to both do the job. The odd thing to me is that my new 200hp 2 stroke is a lot quieter than my 115hp 2 stroke was... both Mercury.
 

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Re: new boat advice

That boat is similar to mine and the deal looks fair, although prices vary by location. I paid $7400, but for a '95 with a 200hp Merc and tandem axle trailer. I can't really comment on the motor brand, but the 150hp is probably the standard motor size for that boat. My 17' could take a 150. Mine will do 60+ with the 200hp so I'd guess that would hit 50+, but just a guess and dependent on how it's propped.
 

blifsey

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Re: new boat advice

Between fishing and skiing (or general watersports like wakeboarding, tubing, etc) which will you be doing most? Is this a boat you plan to fish out of 75% of the time and take family out for fun 25% or is it the other way around?
 

2.5liters

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Re: new boat advice

50% cruising/ shore camping
25% fishing
25% watersports

I like this type of boat because of the more rugged interior, shallower keel, versatility, and they seem to be lighter than the bowriders. I am limited by my Trucks capabilities (96' nissan pathfinder 5 speed).
 

convergent

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Re: new boat advice

Your list would probably point some people to a bowrider/stern drive oriented boat since fishing is only 25%, but I am like you and really like the form factor of these boats that are similar to bass boats. One thing you need to pay attention to, however, is the max capacity on them. My 17' had only a 4 person capacity, and the 20' is only 6 person. I think the bowrider oriented boats have higher capacities, but that's just a guess. In my case, 6 works fine, and it actually seats 8, so 6 is comfortable.

Your tow vehicle may be an issue. My ProCraft is pretty heavy. I have a Grand Cherokee with a 4.0L six, and it struggles on hills with this boat. Other folks may be able to comment on that better than me. Given that the one you are looking at isn't sitting on a tandem trailer, it may not be as heavy of a boat.
 
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