New boat owner with stupid question

m49684

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I just traded a motorcycle for a 1987- 18.5 foot sea ray with a cuddy cabin. I know it has a 4cy.
And it says 3.0 on the tail of the motor.
Trying to find new canvas. And I keep seeing sea ray cuddy 230 and sea ray 165
How do I figure out what I have. Also looking for suggestions on sites to visit for parts
 

smokeonthewater

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canvas is gonna be custom for a boat that old... it's rare to find original canvas for anything over 5 years old

any marine upholstery shop can fix ya up... if you just want a bimini those are universal... just figure length and width desired
 

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I just traded a motorcycle for a 1987- 18.5 foot sea ray with a cuddy cabin. I know it has a 4cy.
And it says 3.0 on the tail of the motor.
Trying to find new canvas. And I keep seeing sea ray cuddy 230 and sea ray 165
How do I figure out what I have. Also looking for suggestions on sites to visit for parts

Hi m49684,

Just to give you a bit of information which will help you n the future.

Sounds like the engine is what's known as a 'Stern Drive'... The engine is a 3 litre GM. It is marinised and sold by Mercruiser. The 'tail' is stern drive unit/drive/outdrive/leg, and as a 1987 it will be an 'Alpha One' drive.

Have a look at this thread and it will help you understand how the system all hangs together.

http://forums.iboats.com/mercruiser...ts-only-no-exceptions-288430.html#post2437200

HTH,

Chris.....
 

Chris1956

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In addition to what the others said. The outdrive will be Alpha I, Generation 1. They are very common, and parts are avail. There is quite a few maintenance items you will want to check on that motor/outdrive.

SeaRay boats were real popular, especially the year your boat was made. Sometimes marine stores (i.e. BoatUS) will sell custom covers for the more popular boat models. You might check there, as it will be the cheapest.
 

m49684

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You all are being so helpful..
Very unusual in this day and age .
Maint. Tips are more than welcome.
And suggestions also.
Thanks everybody.
 

H20Rat

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last owner severely neglected her

Maint. Tips are more than welcome.
And suggestions also.


Post some pictures! There is a chance you have a pile of work that isn't visible... '87 searay most likely still has wood under the floor, and if the previous owner neglected her, pretty good odds that wood is rotten.
 
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While you're at it at least take an online boating course (in-person ones offered by the Coast Guard Auxiliary etc. are even better) so that you have some idea of how to operate around other boats, right of way rules, etc. It sounds like you take boat ownership seriously and want to do it the right way, your fellow boaters will appreciate you not being one of the idiots out there that doesn't have a clue.
 

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You can buy a generic cover at walmart. Make sure it has tie downs on the cover and get something to "tent" the cover with so water does not pool in the cover.
 

m49684

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Did check that much.
Floor of the boat is solid .
No bad scratches in the hull either.
Things I know need to be done:
Wiring needs to be redone.
All the seats cuz of mildew stains.
Needs a blower..
Maybe a second battery?
Some serious rubbing out and lots of wax
 

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m49684

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That will be done this spring.
Both girlfriend and myself will take a boating safety course
 

m49684

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thanks chris... I saved it for future ref.
 

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With a boat of that age there are a few things that are normal maintenance type items that would be good to just get done. Most of them are relatively low cost items. Breakdowns in a boat are a lot bigger pain than breakdowns in cars and trucks, just pulling over isn't so easy. You want to make sure everything is as reliable as possible.

* Engine Tune up. Replace all the plugs, wires, cap (marine) and rotor.
* I've changed out the thermostats on new to me boats just to know they are good, cheap and easy insurance.
* Check the belts and potentially just change them out.
* If you have idle problems or it runs rough, rebuild the carb. $30 kit and a few hours of work and can make a huge difference.
* Change the seawater impeller and service the outdrive (change the oil). The impeller pumps the water out of the lake to cool the motor. They are supposed to be changed every 2 years/x hours type of thing. Cheap, but can leave you stranded when they fail.
* Check the bellows and ujoints. There is a rubber boot that protects the motor output shaft/driveshaft that runs into the outdrive. If the bellow goes bad it'll ruin the ujoints and can cause water to come in the boat and other issues. This one is more involved than the others above.

Here is a link to OEM service manuals. Invaluable. Boatinfo - The library, containing manuals, brochures and other technical documents from the last hundred years!

You have a popular drive train and can find all kinds of YouTube videos and information. Watch the videos to get a good idea of what to do, and then follow the service manuals while you do the job. Ex: the service manual will tell you the exact steps to rebuild your carb, which parts to take off first, etc.

You should be able to clean up the outside with lots of elbow grease. Research wet sanding and get to work!

Good luck with the new boat!
 

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m,

If that boat sat out in the elements without a cover, there's a real good chance the floor, stringers and foam are saturated with water. You mention mildew which can happen in a covered boat w/o ventilation or one left exposed to the elements (ask me how I know?). You need to go over the decking, transom and stringers with a fine tooth comb...read a few of the boat restoration threads, you'll understand what I'm telling you! I hope that's not the case, but on a boat of that age and if exposed...

Get some more pictures posted, hull, transom, decking, cuddy, etc...

~Brett
 

m49684

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that pic I posted is how and where it sat for a year....I have it covered now, but trying to find a storage unit so I can get it inside and start going through it.... once I get it inside, I will post a ton of pics so I can get some advice on where to start.
 

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that pic I posted is how and where it sat for a year....I have it covered now, but trying to find a storage unit so I can get it inside and start going through it.... once I get it inside, I will post a ton of pics so I can get some advice on where to start.

I just noticed where you're located, I retract my statement about the floor, stringers and foam being saturated with water...it's most likely ice right now?

Get it inside, warm it up, and examine. Being outside for a year, I'd bet money that all above need replaced? Especially because of year, construction style and location.

The great news...you found iboats and we (more specifically everyone else) will get you through the rebuild...you might even make a few good buddies along the way?!

~Brett
 

m49684

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lol... yes there is snow on the cover.. the boat is dry.(now)
I got the boat before the snow flew, got it all vacuumed out, and tried to give it a bath.
like I said, as soon as I can find a storage unit, I want to get started.. want to put new carpet and seats..
after I get the carpet up, i'll be able to check the wood.. but from what I've seen so far, it all seems solid.
 

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I'll keep my fingers crossed for you! No matter what, it can be fixed...better than new if need be!
 

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That boat must have a bilge blower. They are absolutely required for sterndrive boats, and would have had one when new. Look for it to be in a corregated plastic hose connected to the vents on the sides of the boat, nearest the motor. it must be operating before you try to start motor.

Nate gave you the standard maintenance items.

Has the boat ever been run in salt water? If so, the exhaust manifold needs to be inspected. is the boat freshwater cooled, by any coincidence?

BTW, If the floor is solid and the outside of the hull is not damaged, you may not have any rot below the floor. My '88 SR Sorrento had encapsulated stringers, so even when the floor (deck) rotted out in places, the stringer and frame structure was fine. Of course the hull cracked one day, necessitating repairs.

I suspected my boat was built on a Friday or a Monday after a late football game, as parts of it were real solid and other parts were real wimpy, and rotted out immediately....
 
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