new boat wrong prop?

banshee130mk2

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Bought a new used boat. Its a 14.5 foot banshee mk2 with a chysler 130. Im not a boat guy but I am mechanically inclined. So ive been reading and it seems im way under propped. The boat has a 3 blade on it I cant read the size its very worn out. I got a 13-23 degree 3 blade with the boat as a spare. Im guessing the one on there looks more like a 17 or a 19 the boat revs at 4300 at wot . Am I right to assume the boat should rev at 5500?
 

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Welcome to iboats.

This is a tough question........ It might be a prop question or it might be a motor question.

TREAT the motor first. You need to test your spark on each cylinder. That drop in RPMs is indicative of a dropped non firing cylinder. I experienced the exact same thing with one of my 4 cylinders and I found out I was only firing 3/4 of the cylinders which help my WOT 1500 RPMs low. I fixed mine and it runs great.

Verify the spark and troubleshoot the motor first before you attempt any prop changes.
 

banshee130mk2

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I will do that ill be back home from work on the 12th. Ill go through the boat then . Is a 130 oversized for my boat. Its a 14.5 foot vanguard banshee mk2
 

Chris1956

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A 130HP motor on a 14.5 footer is very unusual. "Normal" power would be 75HP or less.
 

banshee130mk2

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Ya thats what I figured the thing is all motor. Even running at 4300 rpm the thing flys. Id guess close to 50 mph
 

banshee130mk2

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Ran the boat out on the water today. 4300 rpm is all it could muster. With muffs on it will rev higher. All cylinders are sparking and it runs and idles great. Has a sputter at wot but if I pump the primer ball it wont sputter. So 4300rpm it runs 43mph and the prop is 13.12 x 21
 

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James Bond Live and let die boat. Cool! It runs good....But your a new boater. Did you have 4 buddy's and a cooler in the boat? See what it will do with all the weight out of it. Trim it up and up once your on plane to air it out. Is it waterlogged? Are the stringers so rotten the bottom has soft spots and a hook in it? I doubt you will ever turn a 23 but can tell you that you as a new boater or experience one can never tell the pitch by looking unless you read the numbers. Take the weight out and trim it up until only the back couple of feet are in the water. That boat should fly. Literally. It will feel scary and light when it's trimmed out for speed.
 

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You may need to drop down in pitch to a 19", or 17", to help your engine unwind. You sound overpropped now.
 

banshee130mk2

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Alright I wasnt in the boat with 4 guys lol . It was two people the boat has a max weight rating of 1650 so I would say it was around 1200 with us and fuel . The prop is a 13x21 ss . Ive ordered a 17 pitch. The boat I guess has a 1.76 :1 ratio which isnt all that efficient according to what ive been told. Had a fuel problem was running out of fuel on the top. So I have just fixed that today. As well my cam gear timing was completely out. So ive adjusted that. Ill have it out today and ill get back to you guys. Thanks for the replys
 

banshee130mk2

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With the new tank fitting the fuel issue was solved. I got 43 mph at 4400rpm in really choppy water. Revs wouldn't go higher. But from zero to 43 mph it goes with no hesitation and moves out very hard and within a few seconds is sitting at 4400. So im not sure why I cant get it to run optimal rpm 5000-5500 . Definitely no fuel issue now. And all my cylinders are firing I did the tell tale check unplugging each plug one at a time for rpm drop and every cylinder dropped rpm. Maybe my timing is out? Or my spark is weak?
 

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I would not go any further until first I checked to see if the butterfly's on the carbs are going full open. The second thing I'd check is the tach. There are a dozen different tachs and setting on them and who knows if yours was set right. They have a selector switch and fine tune calibration pot on the back. Check it. The are often off by a little ( calibration pot) or a lot ( selector switch). It's so easy and common to get them wrong that I don't trust them especially on a not so common Chrysler. You may have a plugged up high speed jet. Get it at fast idle and block the carbs one at a time with a rag. This creates a high vacuum and will pull that brown jelly that forms with today's gas thru it. Shortcut to rebuild but it works wonders on all small carbed engines. Did you trim it way up on the top end? Get it bouncing or cavitating and then just down enough until it stops. If it does not have power trim move that metal rod on the engine up or so it does not go down as far when lowered. Fwiw. My current boat did 26 mph at 4600 rpm when I bought it and it ran fine. My tach was selected wrong, the wrong prop was on it, the engine was mounted an inch too high on the transom and it did not have power trim. Tach was low by about 1200, I went from 15 to 17 on the prop, I added a good used power trim but it cavitated befor I could really air it out with the trim so I lowered the engine. All common stuff to experianced boaters and more important on small boats like ours. Yesterday it ran an all time high of 37.6 @ 5800 RPM. In other words keep tweaking and you will get it. 1983 16' Valco Bay Runner with Johnson 60.
 

banshee130mk2

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My engine has the coil conversion so it doesnt have a cd box just a distributor and coil. Could I be dropping a cylinder at high rpm?
 

banshee130mk2

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Butterflys are definitely open all the way . Ive trimmed it up and down max ive seen 4400. Ive pulled the carbs apart and cleaned them. Ive checked all the cylinders for spark. Could a bad lower unit keep my rpms down?
 

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I've heard of a lower unit slipping and over reving but not bogging down. I guess it could happen right before a major failure. When are you going to try that new prop?
 
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