New member, have questions

Ducati John

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Hello everyone. As you can see by my name, I'm a motorcycle enthusiast and a boat admirer. My Dad was the boat guy, years ago owning a 35 or 37' Chris Craft and a 32' of an unk brand. I suppose he picked up the boat bug as a Merchant Mariner during WWII. Before he passed away last year he would show up and work on the Liberty ship thats docked in San Francisco, I think the name of it is the Jeremiah O'Brian. It was the exact kind of boat he served on during the war. He told me he believed he was the only volunteer worker on board that actually served during the war.

Anyway, I'm a new owner of a 1995 Zodiac Z131 and I've gotten pretty obsessed over it these past few days. I guess you can say it was in pretty decent shape, because after I got it home I filled it with air and it held it pretty much all night. The boat was filthy, so I set about cleaning it after learning what chemicals not to use on it. I do have some materials laying around since I was in the detail chemical and related business for over 20 years before I retired recently. Most of my free time is taken up with the motorcycle hobby, but I'm kind of excited now to have the opportunity to pursue some boating as well. I proceeded to mix up some degreasers and washed it really good, I also inspected it for any obvious leaks or damage after I dried it. The boat surfaces and seams appear to be in good shape considering the year of birth, except for some fabric starting to show through on the underside of one of the tubes. I think within a couple weeks I'll be doing paint duty on it with the product Tuff Coat, looks impressive. Because of UV damage the side bumper material is pretty chewed up looking, its sticky to the touch and looks like its been scorched with a blow torch. I noticed quite a bit of material separation, the black colored floor and the black colored seams need to be cleaned and glued back together in a bunch of spots. I believe I have what I need information wise to proceed with that part of the restoration.

Yesterday I sanded, degreased and painted the transom with grey porchpaint by Sherwin Williams. I rolled the dice a little on the product, but I had it laying around for painting the floor and ramp of my enclosed motorcycle trailer so I figured why not the transom? Its kind of a pliable paint and very waterproof appearing and to the touch as well. The outcome was very nice. My next step as I have indicated will be to clean/prep underneath the black rubberized material and then glue them back into place. After that I'll likely prep and paint the hull with the Tuff Coat product.

What is bothering me is the condition of that thicker striped rubberized bumper that runs the whole length of the boat, its chewed up. I don't know what to do with it yet.

I'm going to download the owners manual for the 5HP Honda 4 stroke that came with the boat, it appears to be in excellent condition. At that time I'll do whatever is required in terms of maintenance and then stick it in a barrel and see how it runs. I have every confidence it will run like a Honda.

Now for my questions and wish list:
1. I know there is replacement material for that bumper, but I'm apprehensive about removing the old stuff. Could I just glue over the new material over trhe old? It might be a little on the thick side, but at least it will look better cosmetically.
2. I've looked but cannot find bench seating. In fact finding in the accessory department is a chore. I would like to have at least one bench seat and it seems to me I could glue on the supports for the bench if it comes as a kit. Is there anything out there in the form of simple seats for the boat, two of them? Is there such a thing? Seems to me the boat looks uncomfortable with all you have is a wooden floor to sit on.
3. I have the wooden floor and there are five pieces accompanied by two aluminum side supports and 4 or so connecting slates. There is one floorboard missing so I can't assemble anything at this time. My brother gave me the boat and he only owned it a short while, during that time it was in a storage shed. Hopefully he can find the missing piece, otherwise I'll have to make one.
4. Is there a way I can download or obtain an owner's manual for the boat?
5. The oarlocks or swivels are missing and there is no accomodation for clamps to secure the oars on the tubes. Seems this boat didn't have oar clamps, every Zodiac inflatable I have seen pictures of have some sort of oar securing mechanism. Whats up with that? I did find an outlet for the oarlocks, or whatever you call them, so I'm covered there.
6. Is there an aftermarket plug for the transom that is larger than stock? The stock plug feels like it will leak easily.

I really appreciate any input regarding the above, so far I've enjoyed the information and discussion on the website. When I get done with the boat I'll post up some pictures of it. One of my first adventures will be to head out of Monterey Harbor and settle in the bay to do some bottom fishing for Sole. About 30 or so years ago I took my wife and a friend out of that harbour in my 11' Sevylor rubber boat, powered by a 24 lb Minn Kota electric motor and went fishing. I recall catching many Sole and frying them up later that night, man were they good! The only problem was no restroom facilities out there and I had to go into shore a couple times in order to accomodate my wife when nature called. That and the fact the boat moved at about 1 mph made for a long day. But it was fun. I took that boat to many places, both on lakes and another time I launched it in Sausalito and motored around Angel Island. It got a little touchy in the afternoon with the winds picking up, it was a challenge just getting back to shore. You do this stuff when your young. I have no qualms about taking the Zodiac out to Monterey Bay again, I wouldn't do it in the previous boat.
 

mudslinging79

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Re: New member, have questions

well, as for the bench seating, i went and made a wooden storage bod/bench seat that fits between the tubes, gives me a place to mount my fish finder and rod holders as well.
i know of one guy who cut a piece of plywood to fit the rails, so he actually has a one piece floorboard which works, as he doesnt roll it up for storage when done
 

Ducati John

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Re: New member, have questions

Thanks, good ideas. I like the one piece proposition and why not? Makes sense to me. I found a nifty chair set up for inflatables (I book marked it) last night. The light weight chair is mounted to a light weight alumnimum frame. You set it right on top of the floor boards and the chair swivels. That would be ideal for operating the outboard. I went over to West Marine looking for the right glue and the first question was is the boat PVC or Hepalon. I'm pretty sure from what I have read my boat is PVC. They have a couple adhesives for what I want to do, but I didn't buy at the time because I want to make sure its PVC and I want to compare pricing. Some people have mentioned West Marine is expensive. Also, they didn't have the common mentioned adhesives like Stabond, Clifton, Vyna Bond, etc. I'm focusing on Stabond at this time, but the other question is the composition of the black material that is the bottom of the boat. This is glued to the tubes and in some spots the black material is glued to itself. This poses another question or two: Is that black material PVC as well, or is it something else? Is it rubber? If its all PVC that would be great, then I know to buy the Stabond and get to work. Otherwise, I might have to get something like Clifton's adhesive #1904. This is for adhering rubber to rubber or black stuff to black stuff like I have on my boat in places. Again, if its a PVC material then I won't need the Clifton.

I went out and purchased the MEK from Ace Hardware, so that is the first phase of the process done. I'll likely order off the net the remaining materials including that little scrapping tool in order to prep the surface for sticking. After I'm done I'll wait for a fair period to make sure there are no leaks. This will include taking it to the local lake for both testing the boat and testing the outboard motor. I'll pre-test the motor at home.
 

nitsuj

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Re: New member, have questions

I'd love to help you, but I don't know much about your boat. I saw your name and had to just drop in and say welcome to the forum.

I'm a Ducati guy too. ;-)
 

mudslinging79

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Re: New member, have questions

i use the bench when im fishin, otherwise i sit on the tube or on the floor when cruising about, depending on how rough the water is
 

Ducati John

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I forgot to consider the fact you have the tubes to lean against, I guess you just make do with the seating. However, I thought that light weight frame and chair was a good idea.

Well, I took a closer look at the condition of the rubberized flooring and specifically if the bond with the tubes is good. I knew from my initial inspection there were delaminated places, but its way worst than I thought. I figured if I could pull the material off the tubes then its either got to be repaired or tossed. Its not like any of the material is degraded, its all in good shape. I know a couple here have re-glued the whole bottom, I suppose that might be the ultimate correct way to repair it, but I'm going to take a different direction. If I can pull apart the black material from the tubes with some ease I will make an effort to prep and re-glue those sections. Once the repair is done I'll test the boat and make a determination at that time whether to toss it or buy another one. If I buy another one it will not be a high end/expensive replacement, it will likely be a saturn model. For what I want to do I think a Saturn 10' or 11' boat will be find. I don't want to go any longer than that because all I have is a 5 HP Honda 4 stroke.

Sounds like a plan to me. I think considering the age of the boat (15 years) I don't think it makes much sense to invest all that time and expense into a boat that might not hold up (regluing) Right?
 

Ducati John

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Re: New member, have questions

I'd love to help you, but I don't know much about your boat. I saw your name and had to just drop in and say welcome to the forum.

I'm a Ducati guy too. ;-)

I went out today for a group ride on my Multistrada. I also have a 999R, its my garage queen. This year I started sport touring, I really like it. :D

Thanks for the welcome.
 

dlindeblad

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I am not sure about your floor boards, but my boat has a five piece system with two sidebbars as well. In three of the back floor boards there is an aluminum channel running down each side. I have two aluminum brackets that fit into the channel which allow a board to be bolted on top for the seat. Also a pin lock in the channel keeps the brackets from slide back and forth.
 

idyltimelg

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Re: New member, have questions

I just bought the same boat, though in perfect condition. It is made of Zodiac's proprietary (?) version of pvc called strongen. None of that model came with provision for seats. There is a guy who sells inflatable thwart seats for $42 on ebay and ioffer.com. They are not Zodiac originals, which cost about $120. and available at Defender.com, but I figured I would try one to see if I like it. I also woke up this morning thinking velcro tape on top of the tubes, and on the bottom of a sanded and varnished 3 1/2'x8" wood board, using the fuzzy side on the boat so that it won't pick up debris when stored.
 
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