Oil Pressure - Mercruiser 140 hp

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myoldboat2

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1974 GM Engine 140 HP 4-cyl 181 cu.in.
Mercruiser "Late Model I" Stern Drive

Engine starts easily. Oil pressure takes a while to come up--it takes maybe 10 seconds to climb up out of the red arc. At idle it is down near the red arc, maybe 22 psi. As the rpm increases the oil pressure increases. Running on the lake at WOT, oil pressure is about 50 or 55 psi. At typical cruising speeds it is about 40 psi.

The 22 psi at idle seems low? This is even when the engine is cold, when I would think the oil pressure would read high until it warms up.

The oil & filter were changed about 4 running hours ago. Maybe the sending unit or gauge are bad. If the oil pump needs replacing, where is it and is it a big job?

What do you guys think?


This is from the Mercruiser Repair Manual:


Oil Pressure

1. Measuring oil pressure
1. Use a good automotive oil pressure test gauge.
Do not rely on the oil pressure gauge in the boat.

2. Check engine oil level with boat at rest in the
water
2. Oil level should be between the ADD and FULL
marks

3. Oil level in crankcase above FULL mark
3. May cause loss of engine RPM, oil pressure
gauge fluctuation, drop in oil pressure, and hydraulic
valve lifter noise at high RPM

4. Oil level in crankcase below ADD mark
4. Low oil pressure; oil pressure gauge fluctuation;
internal engine noise and/or damage

5. Change in oil pressure
5. This may be a normal condition. Oil pressure may
read high in the cooler times of the day, and when
engine is not up to operating temperature. As the
air temperature warms up and engine is running
at normal opening temperature, it is normal for oil
pressure to drop.


6. Low engine oil pressure at idle
6. With modern engines and engine oils, low oil
pressure readings at idle do not necessarily mean
there is a problem. If valve lifters do not ?clatter?
(at idle), there is a sufficient volume of oil to lubricate
all internal moving parts properly. The reason
for the drop in oil pressure is that engine heat
causes an expansion of the internal tolerances in
the engine and, also, the oil will thinout
somewhat from heat.


7. Low engine oil pressure at idle after running at a
high RPM
7. Refer to No. 5 and 6, preceding

8. Boats with dual engines
8. It is not uncommon to see different oil pressure
readings between the two engines, as long as
both engines fall within specifications. Differences
in oil pressure can be attributed to differences in
engine tolerances, gauges, wiring, senders, etc.

9. Boats with dual stations
9. Refer to No. 8. preceding


Low Oil Pressure
Cause / Special Information

1. Low oil level in crankcase

2. Defective oil pressure gauge and/or sender
2. Verify with an automotive test gauge. Refer to
SECTION 4D for instrument testing.

3. Thin or diluted oil
3. Oil broken down; contains water or gas; wrong
viscosity; engine running too hot or too cold;
excessive idling in cold water (condensation)

4. Oil pump
4. Relief valve stuck open; pickup tube restricted;
worn parts in oil pump; air leak on suction side of
oil pump or pickup oil tube

5. Oil leak can be internal or external
5. Oil passage plugs leaking, cracked or porous cylinder
block

6. Excessive bearing clearance
6. Cam bearings, main bearings, rod bearings
 

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Re: Oil Pressure - Mercruiser 140 hp

The 22 psi at idle seems low?

Ayuh,... While your oil pressure might be a tad Low,...
It's well within Chevy's spec of 10psi per 1000rpms....
 

michaeli84

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Re: Oil Pressure - Mercruiser 140 hp

I have the same motor in my boat. It reads about the same 25 28 whan i give it throttle it rises. if the sender wasnt working you wouldnt get any reading at all the oil pump is in the oil pan sounds like its working though. You would have to take out the engine and unbolt the pan to change the pump. Maybe different viscosity in the oil is causing it. Good luck mike
 

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Re: Oil Pressure - Mercruiser 140 hp

Bond-o> Ayuh,... While your oil pressure might be a tad Low,...
It's well within Chevy's spec of 10psi per 1000rpms....


cool, i wasn't aware of that rule of thumb. good to know!


mkast> It would appear you have the answer to your question.

yeah, i know, but the boat gauge has read ok before, and it seems
to be reading fine at other rpm settings. i don't have the auto
gauge and probably wouldn't know how to attach it anyway.


michaeli84> I have the same motor in my boat. It reads about the same 25 28 whan i give it throttle it rises.

cool, thanks for the info!

if the sender wasnt working you wouldnt get any reading at all the oil pump is in the oil pan sounds like its working though. You would have to take out the engine and unbolt the pan to change the pump.

yeah, i had the engine out two summers ago and i'm kicking myself
for not thinking about changing the oil pump.

Maybe different viscosity in the oil is causing it.

not sure. i changed the oil & filter in the fall,
used the same oil & filter as always,
Mercury 4-Cycle 25W-40 Marine Engine Oil 92-802837A1 (or Q1 for Quicksilver)
Mercruiser Oil Filter 35-802885T (or Q for Quicksilver).
the oil condition looks great on the dip stick and it is right
to the full line where i try to keep it. we'll be running the
boat over the next two weeks on a trip. maybe i'll change
the oil after that and see what happens.


thanks for all the replies, much appreciated!
 

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Re: Oil Pressure - Mercruiser 140 hp

pulling the engine to change a spun coupler now.
trying to decide if i should replace the oil pump
or run an oil treatment to clean things up or
pull pan and clean things up by hand.
thoughts?
 

myoldboat2

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Re: Oil Pressure - Mercruiser 140 hp

i think this problem is solved. pulled the sterndrive to prepare for changing the coupler (other thread on this forum). ran the engine briefly to warm the oil, added 1/3 can seafoam to oil, ran engine for a few minutes, shut it down for a few minutes, ran it again for a few minutes, drained the oil through the oil pan drain hole (i left the seafoam in the oil for a shorter period of time than they recommend). replaced the 3.5 quarts (half quart still in filter) with some basic oil, ran for a few minutes, drained. again replaced the 3.5 qts with basic oil, ran for a few minutes, drained and took off old oil filter. mounted new filter, put in 4 qts quicksilver 25w-40 and test ran the engine. previously the (25w-40) oil pressure came up slowly and at idle was 22 psi. now it comes up more quickly and at idle is 35 psi. i'll test it again in a day or so and eventually on the lake, but it appears that whatever was restricting my oil flow was removed. maybe just changing the oil would've done it, but for now i'm ok with the approach i used. i'll monitor for oil burning or other problems to see if i did any harm.
 

elkhunter338

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Re: Oil Pressure - Mercruiser 140 hp

I assume you have an electric gauge, they will work slow and are not accurate at times if the sender is going bad or not matched with gauge.
Check oil pressure with manual gauge. Oil pressure seems ok.
Run a straight 30 weight diesel grade oil and you will be fine.
I put a low oil warning buzzer on my boat and a high temp alarm and put a set of manual oil/water temp gauges back by the transom.
 
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