Old Issues...Before I replace my $225 Rectifier...

adriandavidpayne

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I have a JOHNSON J150STLCEM 1989 V6 150 Motor. My battery doesn't charge while running, and my New tach doesn't work. Before I order the $225 Rectifer/Regulator, how can I make sure it's not the Stator?
 

Joe Reeves

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Re: Old Issues...Before I replace my $225 Rectifier...

Connect the tachometer temporarily as follows. If the tachometer functions normally when connected as instruced below, the stator is okay, and if so the tachometer does function.... BUT DOES NOT function when connected as it should be, the voltage regulator/rectifier is faulty.

(Testing Tachometer With Water Cooled Regulator/Rectifier)
(J. Reeves)

A quick check is to simply plug in a another new tachometer as a piece of test equipment. If the new tach works properly and the old tach didn't, obviously the old tach is faulty.... but usually boaters don't carry around a spare tach (see below).

A faulty rectifier wouldn't damage the tachometer, the tachometer simply wouldn't work. This is due to the fact that the tachometer operates off of the charging system and the rectifier converts AC voltage to DC voltage, enabling the charging system. A faulty rectifier disables the charging system, and the tachometer simply doesn't register.

However.... those water cooled regulator/rectifiers that are used on the 35 ampere charging systems (and some others) bring into play a different type problem, and as you've probably found out, they are really a pain to troubleshoot via the proper procedure. There's an easier way.

The tachometer sending/receiving setup operates off of the gray wire at the tachometer. That same gray wire exists at the engine wiring harness which is connected to the engine electrical terminal strip. You'll see that there is a gray wire leading from the regulator/rectifier to that terminal strip, and that there is another gray wire attached to it. That other gray wire is the wire leading to the tachometer which is the one you're looking for.

NOTE: For the later models that DO NOT incorporate a wiring terminal strip, splicing into the "Yellow Wire" mentioned will be necessary.

Remove that gray wire that leads to the tachometer. Now, find the two (2) yellow wires leading from the stator to that terminal strip. Hopefully one of them is either yellow/gray or is connected to a yellow/gray wire at the terminal strip. If so, connect the gray wire you removed previously to that yellow/gray terminal. Start the engine and check the tachometers operation, and if the tachometer operates as it should, then the regulator/rectifier is faulty and will require replacing. If the tachometer is still faulty, replace the tachometer.

If neither of the yellow wires from the stator is yellow/gray, and neither is attached to a yellow/gray wire, then attach that gray tachometer wire to either yellow stator wire, then the other yellow wire, checking the tachometer operation on both connections.

I've found this method to be a quick and efficient way of finding out which component is faulty.... the tachometer or the regulator/rectifier. It sounds drawn out but really only takes a very short time to run through. If the water cooled regulator/rectifier proves to be faulty, don't put off replacing it as they have been known to catch on fire with disastrous consequences.
 

emdsapmgr

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Re: Old Issues...Before I replace my $225 Rectifier...

I'd follow Joe's test method first. It's a relatively simple, valid test. It should provide you with the correct diagnosis. The factory service manual lists additional tests for the charging side of the electrical system on that engine. There are some stator ohm tests and amp output tests listed which will help you qualify the charging system components. If you get into testing for amp outputs, I'd be very careful. that engine has the high capacity 35 amp charging system and any amp testing needs to be done by the book.
 

adriandavidpayne

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Re: Old Issues...Before I replace my $225 Rectifier...

Thank You. When the weather clears up, I'm out there...
 

adriandavidpayne

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Re: Old Issues...Before I replace my $225 Rectifier...

Stator is OK! That's good news. Now, how to pull off the flywheel :)
 
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