? On the government responsibility to citizens

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Saw a woman on the tube last night. She was vacationing in Cancun when Wilma hit, ended up stranded for a number of days, 7 to 10 come to mind. She was up set the US government did not send help in the form transportation out of Mexico and back to the US. She stated "Other Countries" made arrangements for their citizens. Questioning where was the help from the US. The talking head stated there were approximately 15,000 US citizens stranded in Cancun, due to the storm. <br /> What liability does the government hold in a situation like this? Is the government responsible for the safe evacuation of its citizens who end up in harms way?<br />Should the government be ready to lend aid (transportation in this case) if, as in this case the stranded citizens are at the mercy of an oncoming storm and all commercially available transportation is maxed out? What do you think?
 

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Re: ? On the government responsibility to citizens

George Bush doesn't care about white people . . .
 

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Re: ? On the government responsibility to citizens

Originally posted by Quietcat:<br /> George Bush doesn't care about white people . . .
Quietcat,<br /> <br /><br />Too wordy a response, should read; George Bush doesn't care about people. Or better yet: George Bush doesn't care. :D :D
 

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Originally posted by Quietcat:<br /> George Bush doesn't care about white people . . .
:D
 

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Quite often a government will come in and set up transport for its citizens to get out of a foreign land.<br /><br />I think if the government can help, it should, but personally, I wouldnt count on it.<br /><br />Ken
 

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Originally posted by KenImpZoom:<br /> Quite often a government will come in and set up transport for its citizens to get out of a foreign land.
Isn't that when they are physically threatened, not stuck due to transportation woes. Inside the US, the gov't will rescue me if my car and me are hanging from a cliff, but I don't they'll rescue me if my car is broked.<br /><br />Yes they will rescue us if our boat is broked, but that is a physical danger too, because you can't simply get out and walk . . .<br /><br />Am I missing sumpin'?
 

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I don't think the goverment has any resp. to provide transport out of any place they did not send you to. I put this in the same catagory as people who are told to evac. before a storm and chose not to.
 

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Am I missing sumpin'?<br />
Apparently you are missing that part of your brain that tells you the Fed Gov is responsible for your every need, want and desire. <br /><br />In your case in has been replaced with self reliance and personal responsibility. Too Bad.
 

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A lot of people did try to get out, and couldnt. Flights were cancelled.<br /><br />A lot of times the only thing that can cut through the red tape is a goverment agency.<br /><br />Third world countries dont work the same as the USA. If you havent lived in one, give it a try, you will learn how good we have it here.<br /><br />Ken
 

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It's a sad state of affairs when the news media keeps giving exposure to these whining selfish idiots. It just continues to reinforce, to other idiots, that the government is responsible for them.<br /><br />It wont' be too long now before the News Media and the Liberals have a majority of people convinced that the government is responsible for them from the cradle to the grave.<br /><br />Once that occurs, we cease to be what this country has been since the days of 1776. :mad: :rolleyes: :(
 

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I don't care either... ;) <br />Considering about 85% of all the money you earn ends up in the gov't hands in one form or another, they'd want to make sure you got back and earned more so they would get more. just an observation
 

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If im on vacation and get stranded from a storm why is it the gov responsibility to get me out??i dont relay on the gov for nothing,
 

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So, we don't want the government to interfer with our lives with things like tracking pasports for our nations security, increasing security when and where needed, and other things but we do expect them to bring us home from our vacations if a storm hits? <br /><br />I must be missing something. A few years ago I was in Canada and the battery on my car went bad. I hardly had the money to get a new one, and had to be home for work soon. Where was the U.S. Government then? Where was the battery that I am guaranteed as a U.S. citizen? <br /><br />A little thing called planning ahead could have helped just a little. Years ago some friends of mine went on a cruise to somewhere in Mexico. The ship had some kind of problem stranding them there for an extra few days while the cruise line made arrangements. Where was George then? <br /><br />I just don't get it.
 

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How would you plan on getting out when there is no planes or ground transport?<br /><br />How would you feel if your 70 yr old mother was there, that had no world travelling experience? You cant get a flight in to help her, cause the airport is closed to commercial traffic.<br /><br />I know I could handle myself, but what about the people that cant, should we just leave them to starve.<br /><br />I dont at all believe in government dependence, but when you are in a foreign land, trust me, the last thing that govt cares about is you.<br /><br />The exception was Thailand during the tsunami, they really did an excellent job as they realize the money the tourists brings to the country.<br /><br />This is all something to think about when you are choosing a travel destination.<br /><br /><br />Ken
 

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I have an idea.... Lets divide Americans into two groups. The strong and the weak. All those wanting to be coddled by the govt can join the weak and all those wanting to provide for themselves can be the Strong. Now, while the Govt is creating all the curfews and setting up meal times for the weak, and waking them up in the morning for work, The strong will continue to do this for themselves. The weak can continue life down the path its already headed and the Strong no longer pay taxes, find their own way to survive. Either side has the option to go to the other side at least 2 times in their lifetime. That will give ample time to decide which side is for you.<br />You'll find me out fishing and hunting for food, tax free and carefree, laughing and watching the idiots that have their heads up their wazoo.
 

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Re: ? On the government responsibility to citizens

Originally posted by KenImpZoom: <br />
<br /> A lot of people did try to get out, and couldnt. Flights were cancelled.<br /><br />A lot of times the only thing that can cut through the red tape is a goverment agency.
This is what I am questioning. US citizens caught in a potentially deadly situation, without the means for escape.
 

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Yall are confusing two totally different things. Relying on the govt to bail you out in the USA is wrong, but sometimes they are the only ones that can help in another country.<br /><br />How many of you have travelled to a third world country?<br /><br />I'll give you an example of one of my fun times in Thailand.<br /><br />I flew in to Hatyai, we'll unbenknowsnt to me, the airport was the only thing above water, everywhere else was a flood. They didnt tell me anyof this while geting on the plane, I only learned it after landing. There were no other flights leaving until the next day.<br /><br />I hardly spoke any Thai, and no one spoke good english. Cell phones were not working, and there was no electricity anywhere.<br /><br />I managed to learn a transport was coming to take me to the next town (where my house was). The transport turned out to be a dump truck. We all piled in, and I had no idea where it was actually heading. After about 3 hours, we finally arrived near where I was going. I ended up having to walk about a mile to my house.<br /><br />I was lucky enough that I knew the land and enough of the lingo to get where I was going.<br /><br />I cant imagine what would have happened if that would have been my first time there. How would I have known where to get out of that dump truck? They didnt drop me off at my house, I just recognized the road.<br /><br />Now imagine you parents taking a trip to Thailand and being put in this situation.<br /><br />Ken
 

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NO !<br /><br />So, were we supposed to send 150 c130's, then listen to the bitckin about the seats being uncomfortable?<br /><br />The storm was coming, they had days to get out before the flights were canceled.
 

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Nobody cares about a bunch of rich, white honkies who were on vacation. :p <br /><br />4 million without power in Florida... most of them rich, white honkies... nobody cares! :p <br /><br />And YES I AM BEING SARCASTIC!
 
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