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Walker2

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Chrysler 115 outboard. One cylinder not "working". clean plug stays clean and dry. Has spark. Assuming not getting fuel...valves? new to boat motors but have built a car engine or two.
 

jerryjerry05

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Compression test? post the results??
Any water on the plug?

No valves in a 2 stroke.

Any fuel coming back through the carb?
 

Walker2

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What? no valves? I have not done a compression test. Don't even have a tester but I will very soon and post results. Plug is completely dry, no water or fuel on it. I saw no fuel coming back from the carb either.
 

Scott Danforth

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What? no valves? I have not done a compression test. Don't even have a tester but I will very soon and post results. Plug is completely dry, no water or fuel on it. I saw no fuel coming back from the carb either.

2-strokes dont have traditional valves. they have reed valves to separate the intake pulses to help draw thru the carb, however the actual combustion process is done with port timing and piston travel.
 

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You can often borrow a compression gauge from your local autoparts house.
Basically you pay and then they issue a credit.
If you have one cylinder not getting fuel with a dry plug, but has spark a compression test might show something.
I think the 4 cylinders have two carbs so one carb feeds two cylinders ao one not getting fuel from a carb is unlikely.
Reed valve or no compression since the down stroke is what moves the mixture from the crankcase to the cylinder.
Those reed valves keep it from going back into the carb.
So when the piston goes up it sucks air and fuel from the carb into the part of the crankcase under that piston.
When the piston comes down the reed valve close and the mixture is forced from below through the transfer ports to the top of the cylinder and are compressed and then the spark fires it and the cycle continues.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNLE8G3pC0k

A compression check will check the reed valves and the rings etc.
If you pull all of the plugs and spin the motor you can see and hear the air blown out of the plug holes, but be careful that air has fuel and if the plugs are not shorted out the spark could make a nice big fire.
By the way spinning the motor over with no load on the spark coil will let the voltage go very high and might breakdown the coils insulation.
 

racerone

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A cylinder compression check will------ NOT CHECK REED VALVES.
 

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If the compression is low and the rings are good the reeds may be leaking by since the reeds stop the mixture from going back through the carb.
Also make sure the throttles are held wide open while turning over the engine.
Compression check will not be a good vheck on the reeds, but if you have one low a bad reed for that cylinder might be a reason.
But the compression check is not a positive check on the reeds, good or bad.
 

racerone

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Throttle does not need to be wide open to do a compression test on that motor.-----Reeds are not in the picture when compression starts in the cylinder !
 

jerryjerry05

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You neglected to add the year,model, serial#
Might help with diagnosis???

They sell a bore scope for the new style phones.
Saw one for 19$
You can inspect the reeds with it.
But if you don't have fuel coming from the front of the carb??
Then the reeds,they are probably good.

When doing the comp test: don't use the key to turn it over.
Jump it at the solenoid or ground each plug wire.

Since you have a 4cyl. it's possible the bottom carb isn't feeding the cylinders?
The #3 piston operates the fuel pump, and it might allow some fuel in #3 if the diaphragm is bad(that's a BIG maybe)

Do the compression test, post the results.
 

Walker2

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Thanks you guys. I have had to go out of town for a few weeks. Im back now and started a new thread and posted the compression results.
 
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