outdrive not going back in?

betayv

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hi guys 1987 alpha one remove the outdrive change all the bellows and gimbal bearing, and outdrive is not going back in any ideas, please help...
 

Bt Doctur

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an extra O ring on the inputshaft, shift shaft not in fwd gear, shift slide obstructed
 

thumpar

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Make sure you have the drive locked in forward. When you get the driveshaft close to the coupler turn the prop as you push it in to line up the splines. I spent an hour or more and a lot of words that can't be put on this forum before I figured that out one year.
 

betayv

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bt doctor can you explain better please about the extra o ring, shift shaft is on forward and is sliding, the out drive is almost is is missing one inch
 

DaveG55

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How far is it going on?
Shaft splines going into coupler properly?
Prop being held so drive stays in gear?
The last half inch of mine took quite a bit of jigging and cussing before it seated.
 

achris

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Misses by an inch sounds like the 'o' rings on the yoke are binding on the gimbal bearing. Did you use the size 9 tool?
 

Bt Doctur

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sometimes a piece of the O ring remains in the groove, installing the new o rings has it sitting higher than normal and the rubber cant compress thru the bearing.
If you were able to insert the alignment tool fully and it was good, then your doing something wrong with the drive. at 1 inch the splines should be engauged so that leaves the shift shafts not in fwd(in a straight line) , debris somehow got stuck in the coupler, you didn't glue the large rubber ring inplace and its getting jammed with the drive.
 

ktbarrentine

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One thing not mentioned is too much lubricant on the yoke shaft o-rings.... Just a very slight smear is all that's needed. Any more and the o-rings will hydraulically lock.... about an inch from full insertion. Some people think if a little grease is good, then more is better.... not in this case. (I actually use just a touch of oil)
 
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betayv

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I pulled out the outdrive again, I clean some of the grease on the shaft, the large rubber oring is glued already, one thing I notice, when I put my hand and touch the gimbal bearing I feel a space between the bearing and the back wall and is about a inch.
 

achris

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When you drove the new gimbal bearing in did you hear the sound change quite distinctively when it bottomed out?
 

betayv

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hi achris yes like you said was a moment I hear a diferent sound, but again I can put my finger thru the center of the bearing and I can feel a space between the raise of the bearing and what ever is back there.
 

achris

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The gap you're feeling is most likely the gap between the bearing and the seal. It's usually about 1/2 inch or so....
 
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spartenos

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Another indicator... How much of the Gimbal housing is showing? The spot you were driving it into? I am talking about the housing with the many little grooves. While not a perfect indicator, I was able to tell that I needed to adjust my tool to drive it fully. I did so and it seated right in.

If you are using one of the tools with the screwed on driver, make sure the screw is ALL the way in, or it could be hitting something and preventing you from driving it all the way (and changing the sound).
 

Bt Doctur

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this is fully seated on a gen II housing
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