overtime pay in jeopardy

Bassy

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Re: overtime pay in jeopardy

crab bait -<br /> When you send a message like this alot of us want to know what you mean. I want to know... What do you mean? :confused:
 

rwise

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Re: overtime pay in jeopardy

I get it, and they can get this, no overtime pay NO OVERTIME "."<br />Richard
 

crab bait

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Re: overtime pay in jeopardy

under a proposol by PRES. BUSH,, more than 8 million workers mite not be paid extra for the ot hours worked..BUSH can make these changes thru EXECUTIVE ORDER.. even over objections from congress...<br /><br />to learn more check-out save overtime pay web page
 

Elmer Fudge

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Tell me that i am understanding this correctly. The company which you work for can force you to work overtime and not pay you for it? :( :confused:
 

crab bait

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ELMER,, just click an read for 2 minutes...<br /><br />soon as you enter the page,, extreme left big red letters <br /><br /> "LEARN MORE"..<br /><br /> scroll down four places ... <br /><br />click "BUSH PROPOSOL"...<br /><br />it's all right there... easier an faster then i can type...
 

dhud64

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I'd like to read about this in a non-biased reading, unlike 'save overtime pay...'<br />Isn't this the deal where the employer may offer compensatory time instead of OT? Just wondering:)
 

Fishbusters

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BTW just a side note from what I understand and have put to the test is your employer can not require you to work over 40hrs a week. Now this does not mean they can't find a reason to fire you if you refuse but that reason can't be for not working overtime.
 

Kenneth Brown

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I work for the state and we no longer get overtime. Sure we work it and get compensated at time and a half on the books but its not the same. I would like to be rewarded now for service I give now. I say **** on the comp time crap.
 

FLATHEAD

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Kenneth I work for the taxpayer also. We have the option of overtime or comptime at time and a half. I take the comp time every chance I get. One of the reasons I took the job was the amount of time off they offer. I love it. But I do feel that no one should be forced to take comp time if they want the money instead.
 

Parrott_head

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Re: overtime pay in jeopardy

The company I work for does not pay overtime to salaried management position personel. They are given comp time at 1 1/2 hours worked. They have to get approval before they can take the comp time.<br />Approval is never given, company says that they would have to cover the missing person with overtime. What a Catch-22.<br /><br />We work for a large service company. One year we did a major overhaul of the customers electrical service. Much planning was done by the job managers and things went like clockwork.<br />Customer was so pleased with the performance they told our job site manager that they would pay all resonable overtime for the salaried people involved. This was in front of several of the managers that had worked hard to pull off a professional job. Our job site manager said there would be no additional billing for overtime, that our planners consider it part of the job requirement.<br /><br />We lost several good planners over that. Lost a lot of talent and experience.
 

FSHKPR

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dam see it happens everytime! I did not vote for mr bush. but since he has been in office he has earned my respect and i even started trusting in him alittle. now he has to pull some **** like this. i really dont think this will happen. atleast not untill after he gets reelected.
 

plywoody

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Overtime? what is that?<br /><br />There are two different types of salaried employees--one is exempt, and the other is non-exempt---it has something to do with the amount of management authority they have.<br /><br />Non exempt employees have lesser management authority, and are required by law to be compensated for overtime--either by comp time, or with time and a half.<br /><br />Exempt employess are paid to do a job, whether it takes 8 hrs a day, or 20,l and are not required to be paid overtime at all.<br /><br />This is all about rules about what constitutes a non-exempt vs an exempt salaried employee. Of course you are going to get different spins on this depending on who you talk to. The AFL of course wants to drum up membership, and will spin it one way--and some management CFO thats looking to save some money will spin it a different way.<br /><br />It all depends on your perspective.<br /><br />Being a free market person, I tend to think that labor is traded as a commodity just like anything else. If there are lots of people out there capable of doing a particular job, the wages and benefits for that job are not likely to be high.<br /><br />If there are only a few who are capable, the wages and benefits are likely to be high. Part of running a company is deciding whether a particular employee is worth what he is being paid. Not sure the government needs to get so involved in this, or whether it will make a huge difference anyway.<br /><br />The problems when companies lower wages and benefits to people is that the best ones tend to find other jobs with higher pay.<br /><br />It is all the way any free market works.<br /><br />There are lots of compelling reasons to complain about Bush, but I'm not sure this is high on the list.
 

mikeandronda

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hey somebody must of hijacked plywoody's computer.......who ever it is almost...I stress almost sounds conservitive. or maybe more like a republicat. Well who ever ya are stck around.
 

mellowyellow

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interestin read crab. seems like the local<br />convenience store is gonna now have a lot more<br />salaried "assistant managers" than regular<br />employees. why not make everyone a manager of<br />some sort? never have to pay overtime then.<br />all new hires will now be called "mgr. trainees".
 

TexSkeeter150

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First off, we might need to make judgements based of a less biased source. Secondly, lets pretend that this is true. Is it the governments job to tell private business how to pay there employees? I don't think so. It is up to the employees to accept the pay that the employer has offered. If the employee does not like it, he quits or does not take the job and finds a better paying and benifit package with another company. If that same employer does not compensate as well as other employers he goes out of business, because no one will work for them. This is capitalism, keep government out of it.
 
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