Parents no longer have control of their childrens lives

alumistar

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Re: Parents no longer have control of their childrens lives

still think kiz'z kid should sock the principal in the nuts. :D
 

deputydawg

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A local woman here met a man from over seas on the net. They married and he moved here, not they go back to his home country a few times a year. The kids miss 3 weeks every spring to go, and usually end up missing up to a month or two in the fall. The month is usually the first few weeks of school after summer break. Mom enrolls them in school there in England for that month. Otherwise they start a month before their trip getting assignments done for the weeks they are gone. <br />The state has laws saying how many days and hours a child must attend school before they can move on to the nextx grade, but these can usually be excepted for vacations etc.
 

kenimpzoom

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Re: Parents no longer have control of their childrens lives

In Texas if more than 6 unexcused absences, you are taken to court and fined.<br /><br />When I was a kid, my dad came and picked me up to go deer hunting. He didnt tell the school three days in advance, so it was an unexcused absence and I couldnt make up any tests given that day.<br /><br />We take a short vacation every January, my son usually misses 2 days. Those are counted as unexcused cause I cant trust him to lie about being sick. Plus I dont like him to lie.<br /><br />Ken
 

SS MAYFLOAT

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Being a school teachers brat, my mother always excused children that would either go out of state or the country. Many children never get the opportunity to travel out of their state let alone out of the country. Again as mentioned, it is a state by state issue.<br /><br />If you can't get anywhere with the principal, seek out the school superintendant. No doubt that this would be a very positive learning experience.<br /><br />Hope things work out,,,BTW, are ya gonna take some pics?
 

BrettNC

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What SS Mayfloat said.<br /><br />Traveling to Europe is an experience of a lifetime that few have the opportunity to take. I think the educational merit is a whole lot greater than any public school could offer. Don't let anybody deny your child that.<br /><br />Speak with the principle. If that is a problem then speak with the superintendent. If that is a problem then threaten some sort of legal action, and make them believe it. I swear that would get you somewhere, because the majority of those in public education administration are now absolutley spineless. I know, because my mother has been working in it for 30 years, and she would agree with that.<br /><br />My father was a public relations director for the public school system during his semi-retirement. He couldn't stand the complete ineptitude of those who are responsible for our public schools.
 

jtexas

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"Parents no longer have control" - are truancy laws a new thing? I thought they were in effect since long before I was born.<br /><br />You could certainly enroll him in another school, say "home-schooling," and then re-enroll him. Don't know how much red tape that involves.<br /><br />But you might could make a deal with the principal - give it a shot.<br /><br />This might or might not have anything to do with your school district, but, you should know that federal funding is based on daily attendance...if your child is there at the cut-off time (not sure maybe 10am or so), they get counted; arrive later or leave earlier, it reduces how much money the school gets from the feds.
 

BrettNC

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The daily attendance has nothing to do with federal funding in North Carolina, I don't know about Texas.<br /><br />Parents have control over their children's education. The problem is that control is dwindling. The sooner you understand the following statement the better off your life will be. The government does very few things well.
 

ZodFutMk2

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We had to take our youngest out of school for a month. <br /><br />It required a letter to the school with a copy for the teacher.<br /><br />His daily work, homework and other assignments were provided by the teacher. <br /><br />At first we sent his paperwork back via FedEx, then when we found a scanner we processed everything via email.<br /><br />The school didn't like it and at first there was a lot of hassle, but ultimately they calmed down and saw it from our perspective.<br /><br />Be calm, don't reference what you might have been told. Just go in and point blank tell them that your son needs to leave for two weeks and what can THEY DO to assist you in your time of need.<br /><br />Go get em!
 

rogerwa

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Its about the money.. Thats my guess.. Thats the way it was when I was a kid. If you were absent they didn't get paid for you that day. I used to collect the records when I was in grade school and that is why I had to take them everyday to the office. It may be more complex now with having to meet certain metrics of accomplishment that is hard to do when they are not there..<br /><br />I'm so glad my kids are in private schools.. None of that crap.
 

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There can be a couple of reasons for the rule.<br /><br />One is the general truancy laws.<br /><br />2 is Divorce and custody arrangements--They really frown on one parent fleeing the country with a child after an unfavorable court custody decree.<br /><br />Not suggesting you are doing that, but these two things can raise red flags to authorities.<br /><br />As a side note, children also have court protected rights, and parents do not have an automatic right to do anything they please with their children. That has been the way it is for as long as I can remember.
 

CJY

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KIZ,<br /><br />What is an unexcused absence? An unexcused absence is usually an absence with no phone call or any other type of contact. Here in Ohio, we can't keep a student from going away with a parent. Unless Texas is different, the number of days missed before being reported to a truancy officer is set by each district. Rarely does a parent appear in court for a their child's absence. In my district it has happened once in the many years I have been here. This particular student missed ~45 of the first 60 school days.<br /><br />You should go to the school, tell them your plans, ask for school work prior to leaving, or for the work upon your return, and see what they say. If you ask(don't ask, tell them), they will paint you a worse case scenario, but it is not as bad as stated. Don't people in Texas vacation during the school year? What do they do?<br /><br />Question: What would happen if the child's grandparents lived overseas and became ill? The family had to leave immediately in the case death occurred and could be gone for a month? Are you telling me the family could not go because the school would not allow the child to miss school? I really don't think any school has, or should ever have that right.<br /><br />This next statement is not meant as a troll, but I will state it anyway. Many view conservatism in higher reguard than liberalism, and that is fine. If what you are stating about Texas is accurate, then this is a case where you must accept things you dislike to get what you do like. This is no liberal law. Just my 2 cents..
 

waterone1@aol.com

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PW2...We are not talking about sexual misconduct, we are talking about a parent taking a child with them overseas. Not something the school board or the courts should get involved with. Perhaps you should ask someone older than you how it used to be.
 

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Ken I may be out to lunch on this one but I agree with going to the school and Telling them what your going to do and ask for home work to take with you.<br />End of story.<br /><br />Guess I'm getting old, as in my day it was expected for us to be missing during deer season. <br />Teachers always handed out work to be brought back and you were also expected to write a short story about it and read that to the class.<br /><br />Let us know how it turns out
 
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