Pink foam floatation to weight ratio

g0nef1sshn

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I think I saw someone post the break down here. Or maybe someone knows and can put it up. I'm looking for a 16 ft SS. Do we know exactly what's need or are we going of the more the merrier? When I get my laptop back I'll post a statement someone put up on my hunting forum that brings this up.
 

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A 4X8X2" sheet weighs 7.55 lbs

It displaces 39.8 gallons in volume or an amazing 359lbs of water. Not bad for less than 8 pounds.

Since you can't accurately measure the volume under the deck, stuff as much as you can. Mix it up with 1" and 2" sheet and you can get enough under there to keep the boat awash for a long enough time to be rescued, which is the goal. Put some behind the side panels and it will keep the boat afloat long enough to tow it to safety.

Your hull weighs 675 lbs. less motor/battery/fuel. Add those back in and it's around 1000 lbs. 4 sheets will keep that up, plus the wood deck and transom add flotation.

Is someone trying to talk you into using pour-in foam?
 

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I wouldn't use pour in foam if the pope blessed off on it. It's a real long post and I can't copy and paste on this I pad for some reason. I'll try to get it here some time tomorrow. Thanks for that info though guys!
 

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What exactly is the foam for? Foam in the hull does absolutely nothing for you from a floatation standpoint when using the boat, because it does nothing to increase the displacement volume of the boat. If you and I have identical boats, and your's is filled with foam and mine has none, mine will sit up higher in the water than yours. If we dump 20 gallons of water in mine and twenty gallons in yours, mine is still going to sit up higher in the water, because the foam is only additional weight at that point. Decoys float, but if you have a couple of hundred in the boat, the weight of the decoys will make the boat sit lower, not higher. The only time foam will help you is if the boat gets a big hole in the bottom, or somehow takes on water until the water from the lake starts pouring over the sides and the boat is essentially completely submerged. However, it only helps you at that point if you have enough foam in it to displace enough water to support the entire weight of the boat, motor, foam, battery, etc?.. If you just have a little bit of foam, it is still going to sink just like it would if it had none. In your case, since the foam is loose and not sprayed in, the wood floor and boxes will have to be strong enough to support the weight of everything, without breaking, detaching, or having the screws pull out. It is your boat, so I'm not trying to tell you what to do, but I just want to make sure you understand that foam isn't going to make it float better. If you are set on putting foam in it, PM me the weights of the boat and motor and I can give you an idea of how much foam you are going to have in it to make it unsinkable. I will help however I can. I can tell you though, that it will be a lot of foam. Theres a reason those pieces on the bottom of floating docks are so big.

Ok, got it from my phone. I think he assumed i had the wrong idea for the purpose of my foam.

This was my response:I see your point, jump in a pool. Then jump in same pool with a pool noodle between your legs. I bet you float better even though technically you weigh more with the foam 

The foam isn't to help the boat float higher or better, simply in there to "help" in the event I take on water. I've seen a chart on the foam/weight thing on another forum. And Ive seen someone break down the pink foam in some form of a calculation to describe how much of that floats what weight.

This stuff is a mere added help to get me to a shoreline worst case scenario, not to fill the boat with water and think it's going to hydroplane. I appreciate your offer to help out. Figure the boat around 1200lbs loaded people, gear, motor and all. I'll try and find the other info I mentioned.
 

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I'm under the impression that the foam is in my boat in case I tear a hole in the skin. It's packed so tight under my deck that if I do hit a rock or something, there really isn't any space for much water to accumulate. I'm very confident that I can make it to shore if something bad happens. I do agree that too little foam is a futile exercise. And I don't really think the foam weighs me down much at all. You can see how my boat sits in the water, I don't think it sits low at all.

 

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I'm under the impression that the foam is in my boat in case I tear a hole in the skin. It's packed so tight under my deck that if I do hit a rock or something, there really isn't any space for much water to accumulate. I'm very confident that I can make it to shore if something bad happens. I do agree that too little foam is a futile exercise. And I don't really think the foam weighs me down much at all. You can see how my boat sits in the water, I don't think it sits low at all.


I agree hayko. The wieght of total pink foam board is minimal. I think he must talk to people that think the foam actually adds boyancy to non sinking boats or something? And too little foam would be futile. I still have a lot to put in the seating. I think ill have 95% of two 2" boards and one 1" board in this thing. And with craftiness could always add more.
 

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quick calculation ....roughly...a 2000 lb aluminum boat and motor combo + misc items( minus fuel weight) would require at least 12 sheets of 2" x 2' x 8' sheets of Styrofoam....

2000/ 62 lbs= 32 cubic ft

32 cubic ft = .1666ft(2") x 2ft x8ft x 12sheets

2 x 8= 16
16 x 12(sheets)= 192

192 x .166= 32 cubic ft

bob
 

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quick calculation ....roughly...a 2000 lb aluminum boat and motor combo + misc items( minus fuel weight) would require at least 12 sheets of 2" x 2' x 8' sheets of Styrofoam....

2000/ 62 lbs= 32 cubic ft

32 cubic ft = .1666ft(2") x 2ft x8ft x 12sheets

2 x 8= 16
16 x 12(sheets)= 192

192 x .166= 32 cubic ft

bob

My ears are smokin bob, but thanks for the breakdown more. Looks ill be getting a little more foam and getting some in those sidewalls. Have to pop the off but no biggie. Still no motor here .
 

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I'm a minority here. I used pour in foam. My boat will float if swamped. It had pour in foam from the factory for 35 years and 99% of what i dug out was dry. No regrets yet and i'd do it again.
 

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UHHHMMM that requirement is only for Boat Manufacturer's NOT for the DIY'r Backyard Boat restorer!!! There are NO foam requirements by any agency.;)

Having said that, it IS, IMHO, HIGHLY recommended to put the appropriate amount of flotation foam in your boat that will float it in case of a catastrophic event.
 
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Decker83

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When that good ole boy puts a hole in his hull and sees how fast it goes down, He will understand the meaning of flotation foam..
Hopefully he or someone in his boat doesn't drown..
I know there is alot of pros and cons about pour in foam.. The only reason I would use it in my tin is it makes a good seal between the hull and the foam..
(It can also stiffen the deck..) If you hit something in the water that damages the hull the foam will not move away from the damage and work as a plug to
slow the water from coming in so fast.. The rigid foam sheets could push up and move and allow the water to come in faster..
I know there is other cons about the pour in foam, so I will use the rigid sheets..

As long as there is enough to prevent the boat from sinking is all I'm worried about..
 
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