Please Help ... NEW to Boating ... PICS ADDED

BryanF

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Hello Everyone,<br />About 2 weeks ago, My fiancee then tells me that she/(we) inherited a 24' 1969 Formula Thunderbird and that she would like to fix it up & use it.(I had no thoughts of EVER having a boat in my life :D ). 4 or 5 years ago the boat was winterized, covered and put on blocks. About 2 years ago the cover blew off and was never replaced AND the raccoons found the cushons :eek: So we "still" went and bought a trailer & towed it home this past weekend.<br />After a day if gutting and washing, It looks a thousand percent better BUT "Looks at everything"<br /><br />Now, I have NO knowledge of boats AT ALL! So I appoligize now for my improper terminalogy & anatomy of boats.<br /><br />My Main questions to start are:<br />I have water sitting in the bottom of the boat. (length of time in there???) Can that rot out the hull/interior structure being that the boat is fiberglass and the wood wrapped in fiberglass???<br />The captins chair did come right out when i pulled on it and the floor seems to be a bit soft (flexable) between the bilge and the storage compartment (could be just not supported well).<br />There are also some small, hair line cracks in the fiberglass floor coating in areas/corners of bilge WITH almost a rust colored stain coming from them. What could that be??? <br />And then there is the ENGINE (maybe wrong forum to ask)<br />clean, full of oil, Packed in styrefoam. Is a 6 cyl. GM motor. I have plenty of Automotive experience, BUT how does this boat engine differ from a car engine? Other than No trans and Radiator :p <br />Is this boat worth the time/ how do i find out?<br /><br />Thank you in advance for ALL the help... Just let me know what i forgot to mention that would help in accurate info.<br /><br />BryanF
 

andrewkafp

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Can you take a couple of photos of her (Boat not fiancee) as a picture is worth 1000 words. :D
 

BryanF

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Here's some pics to help out...let me know if there are any other pics needed.<br /><br />Thanks <br /> <br />
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sea wolf

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nice looking boat. but, if the floor is soft u need to replace it. that & the stringers are probably shot. not an easy task. go to the project boats forum here, there's plenty of info. u need to decide if u want to tackle it. there's a lot of rust on that engine. change the plugs, etc. give it a tune up. get yerself a pair of muffs, fire it up. see what happens. i would squirt some marvel mystery oil in the cylinders & let it sit for a couple days before trying to start it. good luck. also i would change the gear oil in the lower unit.
 

Bondo

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Sharp Looking Boat.....<br />I see Alot of Work to bring her back to Pristeine....
 

roscoe

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and that she would like to fix it up & use it.(
I would let her fix it up and use it, key word here being "her".<br /><br />Lots of time effort and money to be spent here.
 

iRich

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It looks like a good project boat. If the floor is soft it will need to be replaced as mentioned.<br /> No big deal if you aren't afraid of a little hard work and learning some new tricks. All the info you will need can be found right here at this forum. Good luck!<br /><br />Rich
 

andrewkafp

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Told ya "A picture is worth 1000 words.."<br /><br />I'm not an expert in restoration, because I bought a boat in good knick. But yours was free and it owes you nothing so far, so like they guys said, there are some real smart boaters on this site who can offer some good advice. You might just have to weigh up the pros and cons<br /><br />Good luck
 

BryanF

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THank you guys for the comments!<br />I do like the older style of this boat, and if i was going to put time into something I would prefer a "classic style" If I may call it that.<br /><br />As for the softness of the floor... I couldn't tell the floor was rotten til i yanked on the seat/screws. :D walking on it never gave me that thought.<br />If i take up the floor, how far into it should i go??? (i know "all the rotted wood") But what i mean is, Do i have to scrap off the glass to see where the wood becomes "solid" again? <br />Also... This would be the time to custom build storage areas (more of/bigger ones) in the floor, right!? <br />Are there any good books anyone can recommend?<br /><br />Thanks again for your help!<br />some of you mentioned the "Projects forum.. should i be asking all these ?'s in that forum, if so what would be the proper ?'s for this forum?<br /><br />Bryan
 

roscoe

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I would not do the floor in pieces, cut it all out.<br />Get into the bottom of the boat and check out the stringers, transom, and hull. All the wood may need replacing, and reglassing. The water sitting inside the hull has probably started most of the wood to rotting. Then put a new floor in on top of the repaired hull. <br /><br />As stated above, go to the project boats page and read up on what others have done. Good Luck.<br /><br />I still think She should do this. :)
 

BryanF

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Actually we are going to work on this TOGETHER... :D <br />Well we have spent the morning gutting more plywood and junk for cabin, charging the battery to see if anything will turn on, lights/pump and we removed the gas tanks! :confused: <br />So I guess we'll see how far we can go on this :D
 

roscoe

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Should be a good "bonding" experience. Just be careful when you get to the re-fiberglassing part, could be very bonding indeed.
 

JasonJ

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It is a ton of nasty dirty work, but it is not rocket science. You will probably have to gut it to the shell and glass in new stringers, floor, and transom. You may as well do all three while you can, the peace of mind it worth a fortune. You will want to give up many times, but you have a free boat. Even if you spend $2000 on the rebuild, you are still money ahead. You need to make sure the engine and outdrive work properly. Even if they don't, you would still be money ahead even if you had to replace the engine. 24 foot boats are not cheap, even used, so I can't see how you will lose on this one. If you really don't want to do it, I'll take her off your hands. Go to Project Boats and do a search for "Skanky Beast". It was a smaller boat, but the same concept. I have no fear...
 

Solittle

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That is a classic hull. Do not underestimate the time, work or money it is going to cost you to do it right. You may want to throw in the towel many times but if you stick with it you will feel a sense of pride that is hard to describe when you are done.
 

SeaMasterZ@aol.com

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take a few pictures of your girl in a bikini setting up in the Sumbathing Pose on the foredeck ... that will give you inspiration to keep going<br /><br />post the pics on here, so we can judge which ones would provide the proper encouragement<br /><br />well be fair and just, just like Jasons boat gods<br /><br /> :D
 

SeaMasterZ@aol.com

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and now for something entirely different ... some useful info!<br /><br />that "SEARCH" button is a pretty powerful tool ... many of the questions you might ask have prolly already been answered elsewhere<br /><br />give it a try, its fun<br /><br />for example, "how to post pictures" for those bikini shots ... ah, thats right, you already have that one down pretty good!<br /><br />Have fun, good luck!<br /><br /> :cool:
 

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Damn!! Why cant somebody give me a 24 footer. :confused: Brian if you give up on her just give me a shout I live right here in Pa I'll be glad to cart it away for ya. :D :D
 
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