PLZ HELP, 1997 evinrude 130HP nightmare

[Ricktrevi]

:facepalm: Ok I have a 1997 evinrude 130 HP outboard, my problem is as fallows, It started with the motor not hitting top speed, it would bough down, and then suddenly it would pick up again and I was able to do top speed (47 MPH)
the again, down..
So I read on the forums to do a carb kit, well I did, I ordered and replaced everything but the O ring that goes under the needle seat, since the one I removed didn't have one.
I ran the boat and in ran fine for a while, let say 4 miles, then it did it again, This time I took the cover and had some one ran it while I was looking at it, I notice that at full speed, lots of gas sprays out of in front of the 4 carbs, I'm not sure why.
So could someone be kind enough and help out..
Thanks a bunch in advanced
Rick T

 

[Ricktrevi]

Re: PLZ HELP, 1997 evinrude 130HP nightmare

:facepalm: Ok I have a 1997 evinrude 130 HP outboard, my problem is as fallows, It started with the motor not hitting top speed, it would bough down, and then suddenly it would pick up again and I was able to do top speed (47 MPH)
the again, down..
So I read on the forums to do a carb kit, well I did, I ordered and replaced everything but the O ring that goes under the needle seat, since the one I removed didn't have one.
I ran the boat and in ran fine for a while, let say 4 miles, then it did it again, This time I took the cover and had some one ran it while I was looking at it, I notice that at full speed, lots of gas sprays out of in front of the 4 carbs, I'm not sure why.
So could someone be kind enough and help out..
Thanks a bunch in advanced
Rick T

Come on. Help out

 

[HenryB]

Re: PLZ HELP, 1997 evinrude 130HP nightmare

Do the other carbs and see what happens. Also check to see if the primer bulb is flat when the "bogging" happens. The "bogging" sound could indicate a complete starve of gas. Also the vent at the gas tank may be plugged, it happens sometimes. Open up the gas cap when the "bogging" starts. Otherwise the list of things that cause the condition would fill a book.

 

[Ricktrevi]

Re: PLZ HELP, 1997 evinrude 130HP nightmare

Do the other carbs and see what happens. Also check to see if the primer bulb is flat when the "bogging" happens. The "bogging" sound could indicate a complete starve of gas. Also the vent at the gas tank may be plugged, it happens sometimes. Open up the gas cap when the "bogging" starts. Otherwise the list of things that cause the condition would fill a book.

OK, I will go out tomorrow to the lake and open the gas caps, But why does it sprays fuel out of in front of the carbs?
it didn't do it before I replaced them with a carburetor kit..
Could the O ring under the valve seat has something to do with it?
Thanks

 

[Scurvy Knave]

Re: PLZ HELP, 1997 evinrude 130HP nightmare

the only place where fuel is pressurized and will spray out is between the fuel pump and the float valve. check you hose connections.

 

[HenryB]

Re: PLZ HELP, 1997 evinrude 130HP nightmare

The valve gasket is small and white. You may have missed it on the old valve. Did you redo all the carbs? The fuel you see squirting into the carb throat is normal. The flow is light at slow speeds but is quite heavy at WOT. Go back and fit the valve with gaskets.

Also the plastic portion of the pickup tube in your fuel tank could be partially deteriorated and gas is not being drawn (your tank is like 30 years old). If you have a spare tank I?d try that out to see if the ?bogging? occurs.

A can of Sea Foam in your gas might help,too.

 

[Ricktrevi]

Re: PLZ HELP, 1997 evinrude 130HP nightmare

I did do all the carbs, and no I did not put the small white gasket because it did not have one to begin with.. It did come with the carburetor kits...Also Yes as high speed it does spray out, but only at high speed..
Will also check tomorrow with a spare tank...
Thanks for all the help

 

[boobie]

Re: PLZ HELP, 1997 evinrude 130HP nightmare

You don't need the small white gaskets under the seats on those carbs. They were only used back in the late 80's on those carbs.

 

[Ryan0186]

Re: PLZ HELP, 1997 evinrude 130HP nightmare

I would say either issues with the carbs or power pack issue. I had an 82 Evinrude 75HP that would do the same things, cleaning carbs and change of power pack solved issue.

 

[HenryB]

Re: PLZ HELP, 1997 evinrude 130HP nightmare

About the white gaskets, the engine was fitted with the white gaskets at the factory. The repair kits contained the white gaskets. I’m sure that each of the old nozzles has a white gasket (if they have not been discarded, please look to see if I am correct). Leaving them off is risky.

Check the condition of the “in-line” fuel filter. They have a tendency to deteriorate after time and introduce bad stuff into the carbs. If it looks brown then take it off and closely look at the filter element. If it is not secure and rattles around inside the plastic enclosure it needs replacing. If the casing is soft and mushy throw it away and replace it.

The power pack could be a culprit. They cost at least a hundred bucks, but are relatively easy to replace. You may be lucky to have a DVA meter for testing the power pack, which is an easy test. It is troublesome getting the wiring backin place in order to get the cover to seat properly. Take note of the position of each wire before removing it.

 

[nymack66]

Re: PLZ HELP, 1997 evinrude 130HP nightmare

Is the VRO pump connected? I would recommend you run the engine on a external elevated tank with fresh pre-mix fuel and post your results,

 

[Ricktrevi]

Re: PLZ HELP, 1997 evinrude 130HP nightmare

Bad news, I added the white o ring to the carburetors, I opened the fuel cap while it was running and still doing the same thing..
Again, it runs for about 25 minutes with no problem and then it bogs down..
Any more ideas?

 

[Ricktrevi]

Re: PLZ HELP, 1997 evinrude 130HP nightmare

Is the VRO pump connected? I would recommend you run the engine on a external elevated tank with fresh pre-mix fuel and post your results,

I removed the VRO a long time ago, My boat has 2 tanks...

 

[Ricktrevi]

Re: PLZ HELP, 1997 evinrude 130HP nightmare

About the white gaskets, the engine was fitted with the white gaskets at the factory. The repair kits contained the white gaskets. I’m sure that each of the old nozzles has a white gasket (if they have not been discarded, please look to see if I am correct). Leaving them off is risky.

Check the condition of the “in-line” fuel filter. They have a tendency to deteriorate after time and introduce bad stuff into the carbs. If it looks brown then take it off and closely look at the filter element. If it is not secure and rattles around inside the plastic enclosure it needs replacing. If the casing is soft and mushy throw it away and replace it.

The power pack could be a culprit. They cost at least a hundred bucks, but are relatively easy to replace. You may be lucky to have a DVA meter for testing the power pack, which is an easy test. It is troublesome getting the wiring backin place in order to get the cover to seat properly. Take note of the position of each wire before removing it.

New fuel filter..
Power pack? Maybe, but how do I know for sure before I buy it, and where do you recommend I buy it from?
I see them on Ebay for 70 dollars..

 

[71Windsor]

Re: PLZ HELP, 1997 evinrude 130HP nightmare

what do your plugs look like?

 

[HenryB]

Re: PLZ HELP, 1997 evinrude 130HP nightmare

Your engine has an automatic cut out feature (one bank cuts out) if the engine temp exceeds a certain point. The engine really stalls hard, though, when the automatic feature kicks in, like something broke.

Did you examine the primer bulb for flatness when the engine stalls?

A shop would charge you $70 for just testing the pack. You need a multi meter and instructions to do the test yourself. but be prepared to learn that the condition is caused by something else. I doubt if a bad power pack would go 25 minutes without it causing problems.

I have a spare power pack from replacing a new one for a good one.

 

[JonahT]

Re: PLZ HELP, 1997 evinrude 130HP nightmare

:facepalm: Ok I have a 1997 evinrude 130 HP outboard, my problem is as fallows, It started with the motor not hitting top speed, it would bough down, and then suddenly it would pick up again and I was able to do top speed (47 MPH)
the again, down..
So I read on the forums to do a carb kit, well I did, I ordered and replaced everything but the O ring that goes under the needle seat, since the one I removed didn't have one.
I ran the boat and in ran fine for a while, let say 4 miles, then it did it again, This time I took the cover and had some one ran it while I was looking at it, I notice that at full speed, lots of gas sprays out of in front of the 4 carbs, I'm not sure why.
So could someone be kind enough and help out..
Thanks a bunch in advanced
Rick T

Hi,
just joined and first post. I also have a 97 evinrude 130 and have a similar problem. once in a while, usually at either top speed or when under load (pulling a skier) the motor stutters, or cuts out (but not stalls) so fast you can hit the windscreen if not careful. Then it picks right back up again at throttle speed. sometimes one stutter, sometimes 3 or 4 short ones. Is this similar to the problem you were having? and did you get it fixed?
So far I have not taken it in anywhere.
thanks

 

[clanton]

Re: PLZ HELP, 1997 evinrude 130HP nightmare

You using a OEM manual and parts? Clean all 4 carbs, check floats, all jets in correct position, link/sync. The float needle seat white washer is not used on all Carbs, depends on the carb. Carb that uses the washer will have a flat surface for the washer. Non washer carb will have raised surface on the carb for the seat to seal.

 

[clanton]

Re: PLZ HELP, 1997 evinrude 130HP nightmare

JonahT, If you connect a peakreading meter to the primary side of the ignition coil, you will probley see the voltage drop each time the motor misfires. Check all cylinders. Meter should have long wires, so that you can have meter in cockpit, while operating the boat.