pontoon boats

aces wild

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Hello<br />Just looking for opinions of other users on pontoon boats. I am looking at 20 foot pontoon with 75 horse mercury mariner. I am not worried about speed at all. basically used for fishing and just putting around, would just like more room and comfort than our current boat (16 foot alumicraft classic deluxe). Mainly wondering about trailering, most time will be docked at same lake. but 3 or 4 times a year we like to head a little further north. about 100 mile drive. how hard are these get on and off the trailer? and how much of a hassle to trailer on the highway? We drive a 2002 chevrolet venture mini van, with a v 6 motor. is that gonna be enough power. it pulls our alumicraft with no difficultys at all.<br />also what about a trolling motor? are these maneuverable with a trolling motor.and how big would i need? I like to work the shoreline alot for large mouth. how about anchoring? are they hard to keep anchored?<br />Appreciate any input and suggestions.<br />thanks
 

rickdb1boat

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Hi aces wild.<br /><br />The 20'er will run good with the 75 Horse Merc. Probably in the mid 20's for speed. I used to tow my toon with a Dodge Caravan, with the 6 cylinder, which was OK for short trips of a few miles. It's when you get up to highway speed that you really feel the motor start straining due to the design of the boat.(Flat Front) You might want to consider borrowing or renting a full size truck for those occasions when you need to tow it long distance. If you do decide to pull it with the van, make sure you have a tranny cooler on it and possibly trailer brakes. Trolling Motors work very well with toons, as they are easy to "Push" around. Get something above 50# thrust as the wind will also push you around alot easier than a conventional hull. Same goes for anchoring. The wind will try to push you around, so get a danforth type anchor that will dig in. Stay away from the "Mushroom" type unless it's just used for temporary anchoring, such as to fish for a bit. I love the toons as you can fish easily with plenty of room. As for getting them on the trailer, practice will have you on there the 1st or 2nd try every time.
 

Fishbusters

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Ditto everything he said. I actually can pull my toon with a little ranger 4cyl but prefer to use my Surburban LOL. I can launch and load my pontoon myself but normally have to get wet to do that. One thing to keep in mind is they do not handle like a smaller boat you need more room and they are harder to turn at slow speeds. About the only other problem with a toon is wind. They tend to blow like a sail especially with a top up. I have used mine with a trolling motor (not pontoon specific just a stern mount turned backwards and clamped to my front deck) for everything from bass fishing in suprisingly shallow water to keeping it over a drop off for cats. I even used the trolling motor to go a couple of miles back to the ramp when I blew my big motor with juice to spare.
 
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DJ

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Ditto the others.<br /><br />My family has a 20' Starcraft with a 75 Merc. It does 26 mph at WOT (5800 rpm).<br /><br />The issue with trailering them is the "frontal area" and the width. I know alot of people here that tow them a long way, yet the use larger pickups.
 

MATTT

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Peterfishbuster,<br />This is off topic, but I need your help. Back in 09/23/2002 you posted an article with a title ( Boat dents puzzle owners ) This has some thing to do with a boat that got damage by the herbicide that they use to spray the weeds in the lake. Do you know how I can located that post ?<br /><br />Thanks,<br /><br />Mattt.
 

GodsBeast

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Hey Aces Wild, #1 Thanks for posting this question, I knew we had a few Pontooners here, but didn't realize we had this many. <br /><br />#2, Now I own a Tritoon, with a big honker motor, built for more performance in mind, but I'll try to contain myself and answer your questions.<br /><br />The others gave great advise! I believe you will really enjoy the open area of the Pontoon Boat.<br />Because your not worried about speed, 75 hp should be OK for 20'. The first boat I ever pulled was this 25' Tritoon, and it was a 7 hour pull. I was a nervous wreck for the first few minutes, but it was only because of all the money I spent on it, and getting used to pulling it. 1 Hour later, the wife was asking me, "How fast are you going?" You may need some wide mirrors to see better around it, and get some head wind, but you'll adjust. I was pulling with a V-8 318 Dodge Pickup 1500. Never owned a V-6, so I would say stick to the others advise on that issue.<br /><br />So far as loading and unloading. Again first time I was nervous, once you do it, you'll find it is not all that difficult! In fact it is easier than other styles of boats, and takes less time. Not as much to hook up, etc. <br /><br />I have not put a trolling motor on mine yet, but I have seen other 2 log Pontoons using them, and they get in some real tight places, I wouldn't want to put mine in. <br /><br />Now lastly the Anchor! Yall can laugh all you want too, but here is what works for me. I am a weightlifter, and in a hurry to get underway, I took a 25 lb Olympic Weight (has the big hole in the middle) and ran a rope through the hole and cliped the rope back to itself, and lowered overboard. The 25 lb weight is heavier than the store anchors, and cheaper by the lb. It also hold the pontoon boat nicely and my boat is big, catches a lot of wind, and in some good current, the boat hold well. I also like the fact that the weight is flat, and easy to store and does not take up too much storage space. You can buy (2) 25 lb weights for $25.00 and they will take up less space that any two other anchors that equal 50 lbs. So far I have only had need for 1 25 lbs anchor, which holds me just fine.<br /><br />Good luck, check out those fishing model Pontoon boats, some of them are very nicely set up! I sometimes wished I would have geared more towards fishing than speed, and handeling! <br /><br />You also may wish to check out some of the sites which are geared more specificly towards pontoon boating! <br /><br />Hope this helps, look forward to tooning with ya!
 

rickdb1boat

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GodsBeast <br /><br />Even though this started out as an old post, it sure is good to get some feedback on the toons, as I have one also. I got the fishin' model, cause thats what I like to do. Plus, it opens up the front of the boat for other activities. The only thing I would like to do is move the livewell to a better area more out of the way, opening up the front even more. The wife likes it, as she can sit on the deck and sit back against it and watch the water go by while we are crusing. I bought nice matching fold-up chairs that I store under the rear seat so that I have ample seating when others are aboard. Works Great! I have a Sundancer 2 log with a 70 Rude on the back and am very happy with it. Gets me about 25 MPH and can cruise at 20 with no problem. I got tired of my brother-in-law being able to get to the "good" fishin' spots where I couldn't go with the main motor on my old toon. Now I too can get in those tight areas to find the big ones. Also, there's a certain amount of security in knowing of my main engine conked out, I could at least get back to somewhere for help, if needed. Go for the trolling motor on your toon, you won't regret it. I believe minnkota has a mount with a very small mount that is really out of the way. I'm thinking of getting one of those myself. See ya on the other pontoon sites and happy tooning! Others may want to visit these good sites for pontoon info:<br /><br />PS- Any time you want to talk toons off-line, blow me an E-Mail at rickdb1@earthlink.net. Happy to talk with you anytime! <br /><br /> PontoonBoating <br /><br /> www.mypontoon.com <br /><br />
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CharlesW

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Aces Wild:<br />Hope you got your pontoon boat.<br />My wife thought we needed one this past season so I reconditioned a used 20' Weeres with a 40hp<br />Evinrude. New carpet, furniture, and wiring.<br />The amount of use it got really surprised me. Fishing, cruising, just plain boating. It isn't fast, but our lake is only about 500 acres, so I don't get too far from home. My Chris Craft 197 Concept with the 5.0 HO OMC Cobra is still my favorite, but I do have to admit going slow has been enjoyable, too.<br /><br />Charles
 

rickdb1boat

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Yeah, Charles, sometimes it is relaxing to go slow and take it all in. :) Glad you got your toon! If I can answer any questions for ya or you just want to talk toons. E-Mail me. Happy tooning!
 
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BillP

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I've got a 20' Monarch with Mariner 50 4 stroke. Bought it new in 96. Speed is 19.5 per GPS. Cruise with a boat load of people is about 15.<br /><br />Single handed launching/retreiving is no problem. Getting it lined up for retreival just takes a little more care and trailer guides help.<br /><br />Towing is my only issue. Weight with trailer is approx 2500lbs and not a problem. The problem is wind resistance at hiway speeds. My full size American auto with 5.0L engine starts struggling at about 60-65mph. I have to tow in 2nd gear and keep the speed under 55 mph. I tried to see how fast it would go once and just barely hit 70 mph with the pedal to the floor on a flat interstate in Florida. This was on a near new Lincoln Towncar with maybe 10k miles on it. At the same time I owned a 4000+lb 20' Proline rig and towed it easily at 70 mph in "drive" and the car didn't sweat at all. It also pulls my 1500lb classic 17' outboard cuddy rig like not even back there. This is why you don't see people towing pontoon boats at high speeds without big rigs. The wind resistance cubes as the speed goes up and pontoon boats hit a "drag wall" around 60.
 

rogerwa

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I couldn't agree more with the posts above.. They are right on. I bought a 20 ft pontoon and towed it on a single axle float on trailer with a 95 Olds Silhouette MV wiht the 3.8l v-6. While the weight wasn't the issue, the engine and gearing just wasn't sufficient to deal with the wind effects and the temp guage would climb. I got myself an Expedition and the it was a world of difference.<br /><br />As for loading and unloading, I found the float on trailers to be the easiest. They keep the boat lower and reduce the wind profile. Its also nice to be able to drop the boat wherever you wanted it. I once put it down on my driveway to do maintenance on the trailer.<br /><br />If you do go with the float on, get a good quality tandem axle trailer.<br /><br />One other thing about towing is that it is sometimes difficult getting the tongue weight in the right range depending on the arrangement and amount of furniture. I had difficulties with trailer sway even when I moved the axles way back..
 

GodsBeast

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Hi ya Rick, I do recognize your pic from the Pontoon Boating site! I didn't pay attention to the dates when I posted a reply, just seen it at the top, and jumped in, also didn't pay enough attention to grammer. You can look for me to get your address in my book, when I get home, (at work right now) and I will get a line off to ya ASAP. The weekend might be a little slow in site traffic for me, after work, every day this weekend I have some commitments to keep up with, including droping in to cook for a friend that we just learned is facing a big battle with Cancer.<br /><br />Anyway, the wife said I have gone toon crazy, and I have. I see the simple pleasures of many types of these boats, the fishing models, the slow cruisers, and ones like mine, that are Comfortable, and safe speed sleeping models, or the insane ones like mine, but hopped up, and they are running 80.8 MPH. I learned they took those twin 225 Evenrudes off that thing now, and are putting twin 150 Rudes on it now. <br /><br />Anyway, I am in that Middle Aged Crazy stage, but slowly (God willing) maturing and the speed is getting less important. Time, or my wallet will slow me down! :D <br /><br />Your boat looks great, and you have room to make an instant Lay out deck, with your set up also, buy buying a good thick blow up Mattress, with the brass tie down holes and securing it on the deck. Then folding it up and putting it away when doing the thing you like to do, Fishing. It is just good to be able to be versital. I can see what you mean about moving the livewell to open the front up more, and I'd have to say I'd agree with your line of thinking on that. You know when I ordered my Odyssey, I special ordered the extra bow fitting seat, that makes the front seating into a full U shape. The filler seat is movable and can be placed in front of either of the doors on mine. I was thinking that your wife likes to lean against the Livewell and watch the water go by, you might consider getting one of these filler seats. They are not that expensive, and very comfortable, and mine has the nice water proof storage under it. Being movable, the wife could put it in any place she wished to sit comfortably and watch the water go by. Then you can just move it out of the way, and have one more nice seat on board with more storage. It is also light, so if you just want to take a trip with a friend or alone, you can easily take it off your deck before you pull out. I've hauled mine up and down the ladder, by myself a few times now. Anyway it is just an idea! Hope this helps.<br /><br />On the Trolling motor, I do believe I will take your advise. I want one that will not be in the way, and preferably not blocking a doorway. I also want the added comfort of knowing it will get me a ways. It would have been a great help, the day I couldn't get my motor started, just to get it the short distance from the pier, to the trailer to load it. Just goes to show how easy they are to load, I loaded this one by hand, pulling it up by rope, and backing the trailer just a little deeper. I also want to get a good quality Trolling motor, and I have heard good feedback about the Mini Kota, and I will be looking for that small mount that you were talking about! Maybe Santa will treat me!<br /><br />I also need to get off my butt and learn how to post pics, and get a good camera! <br /><br />Nice Pic Rick, and look forward to tooning with ya! Gotta go duty calls.<br /><br />GodsBeast
 
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