Power meter faulty? Any utility gurus in the house?

Homerr

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I think I have a faulty power meter to my house.<br /><br />My power bills just seem to be getting steadily higher each month.<br />From Summer of 2003 to the end of January 2004, it has went up dramatically.<br /><br />We called to complain, but we got the usual excuses, " It's winter, it's the holidays etc..."<br /><br />Problem with that is, I use propane for heat, I didn't run any Christmas lights, and I've been practically living in the dark and cold.<br />Although I run propane, my stove has a fan, but it comes on only a few times. Even then, it's only on when we're awake for 5 or 6 hours in the evening before bed.<br />Everything is shut off during the day when everyone is gone to work and school.<br />We might run a load of laundry each night.<br /><br />I originally bought this house from my parents, and they use to run electric heat almost non-stop in the winter, and air conditioners 24/7 in the summer... And their bill wasn't even as high as mine now!<br />I run air conditioners in the summer too, and my bill isn't as high as it is now.<br /><br />???<br /><br />I paid my bill in December 2003, and practically shut everything off in January to verify if it was actually my usage or a bad meter. <br />I ran everything at its minimum. <br />Well, January's bill came along, and it went UP! :mad: <br /><br />Now here's another kicker:<br />I estimated February's usage, and it's going to be approx. 10 kw/h per day LESS than January...(I figured the same amount of days used)<br />And I DIDN'T change anything - My usage was relatively the same. How can this be?<br /><br />???<br /><br />I've even went as far as removing half the light bulbs. The kids are pretty good about keeping the lights off too (with me at attention of course)<br /><br />Any ideas? <br /><br />I'm going to formally request a power meter calibration. My meter has been in this house for ever. I'm guessing 20+ years.<br />I've read some web sites (various power companies) that older meters usually SLOW down with age. Is there any truth to this?<br /><br />I'm just about ready to use my .45 caliber adjusting tool on the meter!<br /><br />Oh and lastly...<br />When I did call and complain, then said something about my meter being so old, that it may be 'obsolete' and they couldn't replace it.<br /><br />I've got an older 100 amp service. Today's standard is 200 amp (I think)<br />My house is old, and if I even attempt to replace any circuit breaker box, or power meter box, the county would be on me like a bum on a baloney sandwich! <br />I can guarantee they would make me re-wire the whole house.<br />I would love to upgrade to a standard 200 amp box, but there's no way I can afford to buy all the permits, contractors etc... <br /><br />Isn't it the power companies' problem if the existing meter is obsolete?<br />They own the meter... If they don't have the equipment to replace it, shouldn't THEY pay for whatever it takes to upgrade?<br /><br />Maybe I should use the magnet trick... LOL!<br />I've seen a lot of those 'free electricity' hacks, and it all looks dangerous and stupid to me.<br /><br />H.
 

plywoody

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Re: Power meter faulty? Any utility gurus in the house?

It is extraordianarily rare that the meter is defective. It is possible, of course, but not likely.<br />It is more likely that you have some problem with your wiring.<br />If you don't want to hire a professional electrician to inspect the system, then you can try and turn off all electical using systems in your house, and see if the meter wheel is still spinning--and then start switching breakers off to see which ones affect the meter, and isolate the problem to specific breakers and circuits.<br /><br />It is always good at some point in time to have an electrician go thru the house, however, and balance circuits. You have two 110 V lines coming into your house, and the meter only reads one side or the other, whichever is higher, and your bill is based on that.<br /><br />Any 220 V items (like hot water) use both lines at the same time, but any high usage 110 outlets, (like maybe a hottub or space heaters or the like that are 110V) if they are on the same side of the service, can run up the bill higher than is necessary, and it really takes an electrician to determine this.
 

rwise

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Re: Power meter faulty? Any utility gurus in the house?

Homerr<br />My brother went trough this (his was not old) they gave him all the run around. He went out in the ally and use his 45 on it, they put in a new meter and in 2 or 3 months sent him a credit for the bad meter! The magnet works if placed correctly, if in the wrong place it will speed up the meter! :eek: If you attempt this don't get caught! they really don't like it! I tested it once just to see if it would work, and I knew some people who use/d it.<br />Richard
 

BrianFD

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Re: Power meter faulty? Any utility gurus in the house?

Homerr,<br />My advice is to not tamper with your meter. Utilities frown upon this type of action, and tend to have these cases prosecuted to the maximum. Penalties can be substantial, as it is a federal offense.<br />The utility I work for has service reps that will come to your house and perform an assessment of your electric usage. This is a free service. I have seen first-hand how they perform their assessment.<br />Old meters (and I mean 'ancient') do fail, in that they usually slow down.<br />It should be stated on your bill: the number of kw hours used, how many days in the billing cycle, and the cost per kwh. There are some additional costs allowed, too. For example, my electric company is allowed to charge a set amount per month for fuel costs and delivery charges. Typically, it is more in the winter months, for whatever reason. You can do the math.<br />Occasionally, the meter will not be actually read by a meter reader. In that case, they will estimate your bill from previous usage history. Also, meter readers have been known to mis-read meters. One month, I was charged for 10,000 additional kwhs because of this type of error. My next bill was adjusted to compensate for that error.<br />Be advised that when an older type meter needs replaced, the utility (speaking for MY company) will do whatever they can to assist. If there is an 'old' meter around that has been tested and verified to be accurate, there may be no need for you to do anything. However, if that is not the case, they will need to set a new meter. If your old meterbox will not accept the new meter, it is your responsibility to provide a new meter box.<br />May not have been what you wanted to hear, but I hope I helped shed some light on it (pun intended).<br />Good Luck,<br />Brian<br /><br />PS, The old 'magnet' trick doesn't work. Electric companies have been on to that ruse forever. The components used in the meters today are plastic and/or aluminum, so the magnetic waves wouldn't affect it anyway.
 

JGREGORY

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Re: Power meter faulty? Any utility gurus in the house?

Homer, I don't know if this will help or not. But, I recently went through this and what we found out was that the pump for the well was running all the time. Electric bill doubled then tripled fixed the pump back to normal. If your on a well check it out.
 

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Re: Power meter faulty? Any utility gurus in the house?

Moved to non-boating technical.
 
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