Pressure changes in inflatable tubes

ssobol

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I was wondering about the pressure margins in the tubes on an inflatable boat (RIB).

In the course of a day the air temperature can probably change 15-30 deg F or more (depending where you live and the season). The rule of thumb for tires is that a 10 deg F change in temp will change the pressure by 1 psi. For a high pressure thing like a tire this is not particularly significant. But with a low pressure boat tube a 1 psi change is ~28% (for a 3.5 psi tube). If a tube is under inflated by 1 psi you'd probably notice. A 20 deg temp change will change the pressure by about 50%. It is quite possible for the tube pressure to get up to 5-6 psi due to temperature changes. And we aren't counting heating effects on the tubes from direct sun exposure.

Say I start out early in the day and it's cool and cloudy. I make sure my tubes are firm when I start out. Then later in the day it warms up and the sun comes out (plus I have red tubes). I could end up with my tubes at twice the recommended pressure (or more).

Does the manufacturer of the tube design them with sufficient margin to account for temperature changes? Or must I monitor the tube pressure and adjust it as necessary during the course of the day (release some pressure as the temp rises and the add some back as the day cools)?

Perhaps the rule of thumb for tires does not apply to boat tubes. Maybe I should fill them with nitrogen to reduce this effect (like is done with aircraft tires).

What do others do about this?

Perhaps I'm concerned about something that's not really an issue.
 

TOHATSU GURU

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Re: Pressure changes in inflatable tubes

"Perhaps I'm concerned about something that's not really an issue."

Yep
 

Sea Rider

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Re: Pressure changes in inflatable tubes

If you want to get to the point, what you state is quite true, it all depends on water temperature and outsude environment conditions, sibs are assembled and tested at factory for at least 5-6 psi for 24 hours to check for correct glued seams, micropores, so having slight more than 3.5 psi on tubes would not be an issue if sib is maintained on water. A different story if you take boat out of water and leave unattended at beach, probably kaput boat seams if it happens to be an oldie.

If it's a cloudy day and will remain same, inflate to 3.5 before going into water, if it's very sunny inflate sib and top to 3.0 once on water you can leave sib inflated to that pressure all day long, just keep all tubes at same pressure. So get yourself an accurate gauge for peace of mind and wallet if your sib has not pressure relief valves attached on tubes. Being a new inflatable won't have issues regarding slight overinflation.

Ribs needs less pressure (2.0-2.5 psi) as tubes slightly touches water for refrigeration, most of the flotaion is done at hull, ribs are prone to overinflation specially in very sunny days compared to sibs because of this.

Happy Sibbing
 

partskenn

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Re: Pressure changes in inflatable tubes

How can you tell if there are pressure relief valves? Are they part of the fill valve, or are they a seperate piece? I have a brand new Achilles lsi 290, would it be equipped with them?
 

TOHATSU GURU

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Re: Pressure changes in inflatable tubes

PRV's are seperate valves. They are usually only found on boats that are subject to being inflated via air tanks. IE They are not designed to blow off a build up of pressure from heat, they are used during a rapid air fill to prevent the boat from blowing apart.
 

Sea Rider

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Re: Pressure changes in inflatable tubes

As TG states, PRV's were found on high end large sib/rib inflatables, the ones were scuba air bottles, compressors are used for quick inflation to avoid blowing the seams, this issue is changing now you can find on 420 mtr ribs going upwards these valves, you don't need air bottles or compresors to fill tubes up, a good quality double action hand pump will do the job. As said before ribs are prone to overinflation because tubes barely touches water and with excesive sun tubes will overinflate if you happen to have inflated your rib's tubes to 3.0.3.5 psi before launching.

PRV's internal spring valve opens releasing surplus air when exceeding top recommended pressure for that application. You can find in the market PRV's with working presures between 2 to 7 psi. There are PRV's for inflatables, just hook on standard air valve, spring will open when pressure exceeds 3.3 psi by over inflation from environment heat including any model pump attached to PRV entrance. You could place one and leave it attached on each air valve to count with automatic pressure control. Ain't that cool!!

Happy Boating
 

partskenn

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Re: Pressure changes in inflatable tubes

Thanks for the info guys.
 
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