Prop gurus please help

dmaiden38

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I have a 1990 stratos bassboat 16 1/2 ft long with a 90 model 70hp evinrude.
I currently have a stainless prop 3blade 13/19.At 4800 rpms i am runnig 34mph I am wanting more speed and unsure what to switch 2 and unsure what the maxium rpm range is.How fast can this boat go with the 70hp. The motor has been tuned up recently I need more speed. Thanks Daniel
 

rockyrude

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Re: Prop gurus please help

The first thing you need to do is get the motor up to 5500 rpm. Range should be 5000-5800 , 4800 is lugging and is death to it. I'm sure someone will chime in but I believe shortening the pitch will increase rpm, once you are in the power band speed should go up.
 

kynolan2183

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Re: Prop gurus please help

You do need to drop down in pitch to get more rpm but I don't think you will see more than a few MPH.

If you were to drop to a 17 pitch prop and got 1000 rpm in return ( which I don't think will happen) you best top speed will be 38.5 mph with no slip.

But it will sound like you are going faster as the engine noise will go up.

kyle
 

dmaiden38

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Re: Prop gurus please help

so what will happen if i go to a lower diameter prop like a 12 will that help any or what about a four blade to get more speed i will lose boat end but i would rather have speed than boat end
 

dmaiden38

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Re: Prop gurus please help

Heres what i am think about doing going to a 4blade in 21 pitch will that give me more speed and what about my rpms.WOT is 4800 with 13x19 stainless steel at 32-33 mph
 

kynolan2183

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Re: Prop gurus please help

I am on the road this week for work but I will try to help the best I can.

You are not going to see much of any more speed. The load of your boat and the design of the hull are your limits.

How I know this is by your current pitch and RPM. So lets do the math the simple way

RPM/2.42 (your gear ratio)=Y

Y* Pitch of prop /12/5280 *60= your speed

The rule on the water is this
To Double your Speed you Need Four times the Horse Power

That does not mean that if your boat is rated for a 90 hp and you drop a 135 on it that you might not see twice the speed. Why, because your boat is now illegal and very unsafe.

Bass boats that run 60 MPH are running in most cases 150 HP or more. They are able to turn a 24 pitch prop because of Horse Power and gear Ratio. In most cases, that I have experience with, as the Horse Power goes up the Gear Ratio can go down, but there is a limit.

Other boat motor companies that use lower ratios also have to use lower pitch props. Example is the Yamaha 70 HP carbed built today.
The Yamaha motor is almost the same motor as the old evinrude 3 looper 70 hp. Yamaha guys will disagree but the stats on the Yamaha site are almost the same. Yamaha runs their motor at a 2.0 ratio which means in most cases where the older evinrude would run a 17 to 19 pitch prop the Yamaha runs a 13 to 15 pitch prop.

Goto the Yamaha web site and look up the preformance reports for Carbed two strokes in the 70 hp range. That will give you a good idea of what I mean. Find a boat that is very close to yours and you will see that the performance will be very close to the same.

70 HP in the water is 70 HP in the water. It will only do so much.

4 Blades will slow you down and the 21 pitch will destroy your Motor.
Your RPM will go down to maybe 4200 and that will be the end of it. The motor will be under so much stress that the cylinders will oval and the bearings will wear out.

Here is the Math
4200/2.42*21/12/5280*60= 34.51 with no slip.
With slip 30 to 31 at best.

I would Put a 13.25/17 Stainless that would put you at about 5100 but look on your motor plate on the side of the transom bracket to see what the WOT needs to be.

My motor is an 84 and it is rated for 4500 to 5500. I run it at 5450. and with just me in the boat I go 36 on a cool day and 35 on a day were it is 85 degrees or hotter, (GPS)

Kyle
 

Dhadley

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Re: Prop gurus please help

If it were mine I'd play with the set up first. We only change props to gain rpm as an absolute last effort. Decreasing pitch will, in most cases, reduce efficiency.
 

mv apollo

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Re: Prop gurus please help

Hello, Kynolan lease rad my post"yet another prop question" as it seems you REALLY know your stuff...and reply. Thanks, Scott
 
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