Question about transom work and paint

Michigan Ryan

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Hi everyone im new to the thread and love boats and motors. This is my first boat restoration and i feel i got a pretty good deal Starcraft Jupiter Special 1975 50 hp johnson on the back had to put a new charge coil in it picked up the whole deal on a trailer for $600 with a trolling motor and fish finder ill post some pics if i can figure out how. I am putting in a new transom using 3/4 exterior ab ply $48 a sheet and i was wondering if when i use epoxy resin to seal the ply do i have to use hardener or will the epoxy resin soak in and not stay tacky? also what would be the best primer and paint to use on bare aluminum for the transom for a good price i dont want to spend too much.....Looking forward to your replys thanx
 

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Thanks for the replys im torn between zinc chromate and self etching primer..Zinc chromate sounds like nasty stuff but i just want something that is going to last for 30 more years without much touching up. Now what about a topcoat agian something that is going to last more than 2-3 years im talking more than 10 hopefully i really dont want to do this agian. Im really starting to regret taking it all the way down to bare aluminum the paint that was on before had a good bond real tough to get off i guess i wont be doing that with the rest of the boat just a good sanding will do.
 

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Hello M Ryan and welcome to Iboats :) ..

Lets start off with ..

I was wondering if when i use epoxy resin to seal the ply do i have to use hardener or will the epoxy resin soak in and not stay tacky? also what would be the best primer and paint to use on bare aluminum for the transom for a good price i dont want to spend too much.....Looking forward to your replys thanx

Yes .. you Need to use the required amount of hardener for your epoxy resin system ( some are 1:1 .. some are 3:1 etc ).

Best Primer and Paint without spending too much .. ? hmm..How much is too much $ .. ( the answer is in the pocket book ;) ) . But you want this to last for 30 more years ..then your going to have to go High end IMHO..

Adding next quote ..

I just want something that is going to last for 30 more years without much touching up. Now what about a topcoat agian something that is going to last more than 2-3 years im talking more than 10 hopefully i really dont want to do this agian. Im really starting to regret taking it all the way down to bare aluminum the paint that was on before had a good bond real tough to get off i guess i wont be doing that with the rest of the boat just a good sanding will do.

In my personal opinion .. for a 30 year prime job..and a 10 + paint job your going to have to go High end products..

Alumiprep..Alodine..ZC primer .. US paints 545 epoxy primer..Awlgrip LP paint,Awlcraft2000,Imron or some other Hard finish paint..

How deep are your pockets ;) ..

YD.
 

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Well i suppose after i sell my motorcycle and jetski ill have some room to play...well thanx for all the replys im sure ill have more questions later on
 

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Mich Ryan..

Please dont get me wrong here.. you dont have to sell your first born to complete the job m8..

There are other ways ( none that I have personally used but have been done by others with great success ).

In that .. I cannot conferm or attest your End results of Many different methods.. dont discount them because of my posts please.. .. Not on my account .. :) ..

Again.. I am a Pro .. I try my best over the Inet to cover not only my bases..but yours..

I can only go on what the Poster wants..and give the best option and knowledge I have in my experience ..

YD.
 

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Re: Question about transom work and paint

Hi everyone im new to the thread and love boats and motors. This is my first boat restoration and i feel i got a pretty good deal Starcraft Jupiter Special 1975 50 hp johnson on the back had to put a new charge coil in it picked up the whole deal on a trailer for $600 with a trolling motor and fish finder ill post some pics if i can figure out how. I am putting in a new transom using 3/4 exterior ab ply $48 a sheet and i was wondering if when i use epoxy resin to seal the ply do i have to use hardener or will the epoxy resin soak in and not stay tacky? also what would be the best primer and paint to use on bare aluminum for the transom for a good price i dont want to spend too much.....Looking forward to your replys thanx

Ayuh,... Welcome Aboard,...

There's a thread pinned to the top of the Tech, Non-boating forum explainin' it...

I soaked my plywood transom for a tinboat in Boiled Lynseed oil...

Resins, either epoxy, or polyester, Have to be catalyzed...

For paintin' aluminum,.. Rustoleum has a complete system, with primers, 'n topcoats...
If there's paint on it now, just sand, prime, 'n paint,...
Don't remove it unless it's flaking...
 

Michigan Ryan

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Re: Question about transom work and paint

Mich Ryan..

Please dont get me wrong here.. you dont have to sell your first born to complete the job m8..

There are other ways ( none that I have personally used but have been done by others with great success ).

In that .. I cannot conferm or attest your End results of Many different methods.. dont discount them because of my posts please.. .. Not on my account .. :) ..

Again.. I am a Pro .. I try my best over the Inet to cover not only my bases..but yours..

I can only go on what the Poster wants..and give the best option and knowledge I have in my experience ..

YD.

If i had a first born i would probably sell them so that i can get this beautiful boat in the water. JK ive been meaning to sell my motorcycle so that i can double my money and a jetski i got for free :) i need all the options whether they are cheap or expensive and i appreciate the suggestions very much.
 

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im starting to think i might leave the waterline and below bare aluminum...... does anyone think thats a better idea?
 

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Given my paint issues, I think it's a great idea!
 

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Re: Question about transom work and paint

There are already some posts here, so I'll give my 2 cents.. Ideally, if you want the transom repair to last you need to use a marine grade plywood (the stuff from the big box stores does not count). Use an Okoume or Merriante plywood (something that uses water / boil proof glue and is rated with a BS standard. BS = British standard, not bull s*#t). typically transoms are 1.5" thick, but smaller boats may be less. Use epoxy, personally I recommed West System and catalyze according to their instructions. It's best to coat the ply with the epoxy 2-3 coats applying each coat after the previous has started to tack. Let it fully harden, then sand it (not down to bare wood, just enough to heavily scuff the epoxy layer) with 80 grit and wipe with acetone. Now, the ply is sealed and ready for installation. Use the same epoxy with a thickener (West System 403) and install the transom using as many clamps as you have. If there are any exiting holes where you could thru-bolt it to help pull the ply tight against the metal even better. Use a wooden stir stick to remove any excess epoxy that oozes out from the clamping (BEFORE it sets).

As far as coating the aluminum, you will need to prep the metal so that the primer and paint can adhere to the surface; I would not leave any part of it bare. Depending on what kind of equipment you have, there are a few options. Do you have spray equipment? Are you looking for a paint that you can roll on or something that you can shoot from a can? Method of application will determine the paint you can use. High end marine or automotive paint will probably cost you $400 for the primer, paint and catalyst; hardware store stuff much less but won't last as long. Tell me a little more and I'll point you in the right direction.
 
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